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    I've started noticing that I my Radio loses wifi connection and won't reconnect, and it seems to be when the computer is left on overnight/extended periods. LMS on my WinXP does not show any issues, but if I go to advanced settings or web control, it cannont find my Radio. I am able to get Radio re-connected to the network only if I unplug and plug it back in to power. My wireless network runs through a Cisco/Linksys WRT110 router with the XP desktop hard wired to the router. I've had the Radio for several months now and I don't recall any problems like this, but I have also been leaving the desktop on for much longer durations of time. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superstar19 View Post
    I've started noticing that I my Radio loses wifi connection and won't reconnect, and it seems to be when the computer is left on overnight/extended periods. LMS on my WinXP does not show any issues, but if I go to advanced settings or web control, it cannont find my Radio. I am able to get Radio re-connected to the network only if I unplug and plug it back in to power. My wireless network runs through a Cisco/Linksys WRT110 router with the XP desktop hard wired to the router. I've had the Radio for several months now and I don't recall any problems like this, but I have also been leaving the desktop on for much longer durations of time. Any thoughts?
    I never turn of any of my computers. Everything is connected either through WiFi or through D-Link Powerline adapters. Everything had been working well for months if not years. My first problem was the Squeezebox dropping it's connection. Yesterday, I lost everything!!! I called my ISP to see what the problem was and it was me. A little diagnostics on their side and they suggested it was the router. A router reboot and router reset (the little button in the back of the router) and and I was up and running. Was that the source of my problem? Who knows? I do know that the router is 5 or more years old and stuff breaks. Will I buy a new router? Probably if I have any connection issue again. Do I regret sending my Squeezebox back for replacement? That is a story for after I get the Smart Radio it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superstar19 View Post
    I've started noticing that I my Radio loses wifi connection and won't reconnect, and it seems to be when the computer is left on overnight/extended periods. LMS on my WinXP does not show any issues, but if I go to advanced settings or web control, it cannont find my Radio. I am able to get Radio re-connected to the network only if I unplug and plug it back in to power. My wireless network runs through a Cisco/Linksys WRT110 router with the XP desktop hard wired to the router. I've had the Radio for several months now and I don't recall any problems like this, but I have also been leaving the desktop on for much longer durations of time. Any thoughts?
    highly unlikely to be related to your computer running LMS being on a long time. Mine is on 24/7. More likely an issue with the Radio dropping/losing wifi. Use something like inSSIDer or netstumbler to see other nearby wifi networks and the channels they are using. Then use the channel that is least used by near neighbors. 1, 6, 11 are best channels as they don't overlap with other channels. Don't use > 11 if outside the US and don't use "automatic channel switching" feature in router if it exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    highly unlikely to be related to your computer running LMS being on a long time. Mine is on 24/7. More likely an issue with the Radio dropping/losing wifi. Use something like inSSIDer or netstumbler to see other nearby wifi networks and the channels they are using. Then use the channel that is least used by near neighbors. 1, 6, 11 are best channels as they don't overlap with other channels. Don't use > 11 if outside the US and don't use "automatic channel switching" feature in router if it exists.
    +1 And further the Radio has a bug with channels over 11 so I would recommend to never use them . Unlike Touch that has a region setting to to turn off channels above 11 in appropriate regions Radio is supposed to auto-detect this and there is a bug that makes this process unreliable .
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    Quote Originally Posted by superstar19 View Post
    I've started noticing that I my Radio loses wifi connection and won't reconnect, and it seems to be when the computer is left on overnight/extended periods. LMS on my WinXP does not show any issues, but if I go to advanced settings or web control, it cannont find my Radio. I am able to get Radio re-connected to the network only if I unplug and plug it back in to power. My wireless network runs through a Cisco/Linksys WRT110 router with the XP desktop hard wired to the router. I've had the Radio for several months now and I don't recall any problems like this, but I have also been leaving the desktop on for much longer durations of time. Any thoughts?
    There are so many problems that seem to cause the Radio to go offline. The ambiguous white/red WiFi symbol doesn't help, either (it can mean bad wireless, missing server, etc.). There used to be an intermediate color, but they reduced it to white/red. Amazon reviews of this thing are full of wireless complaints.

    The only problem I can think of that may be related to your issue is that the Server service in Windows is crashing and knocking your computer off the network frequently. I had an issue with that a few months ago and SB Radio seemed to take a long time to recover.

    You can check the Event Viewer in Windows to look for any critical errors related to that.

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    Thanks for the tips. I was not aware of setting the channel on the router so I'm starting with that.

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    Same problem -> Any news?

    Any news on that old thread?

    Since around a week, I have the same problem. My Radios worked flawlessly for several years now in my WLAN, and suddently, they all drop the WLAN connection all day, sometines after some minutes, sometimes after some hours. And they won't connect again until I reboot them.

    The strange thing is: I haven't changed anything. No new devices, no change in WLAN configuration, no firmware updates. :-/
    1x Squeezebox Classic, 3x Radio, 1x Touch, LMS 7.9.1 running on ODROID-U3, Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm happy with it! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steevee28 View Post
    Any news on that old thread?

    Since around a week, I have the same problem. My Radios worked flawlessly for several years now in my WLAN, and suddently, they all drop the WLAN connection all day, sometines after some minutes, sometimes after some hours. And they won't connect again until I reboot them.

    The strange thing is: I haven't changed anything. No new devices, no change in WLAN configuration, no firmware updates. :-/
    Common point of failure may be the router - routers rarely die suddenly, they fail slowly and erratically.

    Since it happens at the same time and presumably you reboot all device at roughly the same time, could the problem be associated with DHCP leases renewal ? If you are using DHCP on all the problem devices, you could check by reducing the lease time and see if problem happens more often.

    Also check for other nearby Wifi networks ?
    Last resort, any new wireless devices nearby the router/AP such as Bluetooth or things that affect wireless transmission/reception - microwave, faulty fluorescent ballast, motors, mirrors

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    Common point of failure may be the router. (...) Also check for other nearby Wifi networks ?
    It's very unlikely that my own router is the problem, because I have some other devices in the network that still work flawlessly.
    But there are over 30 other Wifis of neighbours visible by the Radios :-/
    Due to Corona, most of our neighbours are now in home-office, so some of them were only recently activated. So I believe that this causes the problem.
    If that's the case, then there seems nothing that I can do to solve the issue :-(

    Note that I already edited the /etc/init.d/wlan file as proposed by https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...l=1#post930154, but that did not help.
    1x Squeezebox Classic, 3x Radio, 1x Touch, LMS 7.9.1 running on ODROID-U3, Ubuntu 16.04 and I'm happy with it! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steevee28 View Post
    It's very unlikely that my own router is the problem, because I have some other devices in the network that still work flawlessly.
    But don't rule it out. LMS Streaming audio requires continuous connections. Newer video/audio streaming protocols allow for "breaks" and can tolerate network problems better so using another "working" device as a reference may not be valid.

    But there are over 30 other Wifis of neighbours visible by the Radios :-/
    Is Router setup to choose channel automatically - if so is it channel hopping every so often and Radios can't keep up.
    Turn off "auto" channel hipping and pick a channel (usually 1,6, 11) based on a wifi scanner. Can't remember if channel 13 is supported well by Radios.

    Due to Corona, most of our neighbours are now in home-office, so some of them were only recently activated. So I believe that this causes the problem.
    If that's the case, then there seems nothing that I can do to solve the issue :-(
    Alternative but require some $$ and another "thing"
    - Homeplug - Ethernet over power
    - nanorouters set up in reverse AP and so maybe use Wifi 5G
    - Mesh wifi/ Homeplug APs - get better wifi signal closer to radios

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