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    Quote Originally Posted by Triode View Post
    Thanks - I reproduced the same thing on ubuntu 64 bit running in a VM. This is running pulse audio - I think you are doing the same - is this on a real hardware or in a VM?
    real hardware, and pulse audio is default in Linux Mint 13 and it is 64bit so I'm using you 64bit version

    I think when running hw i bypass pulse if use default i use pulse audio ?

    Here is my squeeselite -l output:


    mikael@MintDesktop ~ $ /opt/squeezelite/squeezelite -l
    Output devices:
    default - Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
    sysdefault:CARD=PCH - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Default Audio Device
    front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Front speakers
    surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
    surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
    surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
    surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
    surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
    iec958:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital - IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
    dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Direct sample mixing device
    dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=1 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital - Direct sample mixing device
    dmix:CARD=PCH,DEV=2 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Direct sample mixing device
    dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Direct sample snooping device
    dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=1 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital - Direct sample snooping device
    dsnoop:CARD=PCH,DEV=2 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Direct sample snooping device
    hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=1 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=2 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Hardware device with all software conversions
    plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=1 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Digital - Hardware device with all software conversions
    plughw:CARD=PCH,DEV=2 - HDA Intel PCH, ALC892 Analog - Hardware device with all software conversions
    hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 - HDMI Audio Output
    hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=1 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 1 - HDMI Audio Output
    hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=2 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 2 - HDMI Audio Output
    hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 3 - HDMI Audio Output
    dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 - Direct sample mixing device
    dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 1 - Direct sample mixing device
    dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 2 - Direct sample mixing device
    dmix:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 3 - Direct sample mixing device
    dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 - Direct sample snooping device
    dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 1 - Direct sample snooping device
    dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 2 - Direct sample snooping device
    dsnoop:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 3 - Direct sample snooping device
    hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 1 - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 2 - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    hw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 3 - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 - Hardware device with all software conversions
    plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=7 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 1 - Hardware device with all software conversions
    plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=8 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 2 - Hardware device with all software conversions
    plughw:CARD=NVidia,DEV=9 - HDA NVidia, HDMI 3 - Hardware device with all software conversions
    sysdefault:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - Default Audio Device
    front:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - Front speakers
    surround40:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
    surround41:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
    surround50:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
    surround51:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
    surround71:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
    iec958:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
    dmix:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - Direct sample mixing device
    dsnoop:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - Direct sample snooping device
    hw:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - Direct hardware device without any conversions
    plughw:CARD=U0x46d0x8ce,DEV=0 - USB Device 0x46d:0x8ce, USB Audio - Hardware device with all software conversions
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Rasbery PI digi+ MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Loggia: Raspi hifiberry dac + Adams
    Bathroom : Radio (with battery)
    iPad with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server Intel NUC Esxi VM Linux mint 18 LMS 7.9.2

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    But i use -o hw:CARD=PCH,DEV=0 192.168.1.50 for now and keep LMS/Squeezelite volume at 100%
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Rasbery PI digi+ MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Loggia: Raspi hifiberry dac + Adams
    Bathroom : Radio (with battery)
    iPad with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server Intel NUC Esxi VM Linux mint 18 LMS 7.9.2

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Updated binaries available here: http://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/downloads/list

    These should make the <100% volume work correctly on hardware devices. I hope it also eases the 100% cpu problem when using pulse audio with a non hardware device.

    I've also built a armv6 soft float version.

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    This is very cool I would not be surprised if this software can be the foundation for a squeezebox replacement .

    I'll try the new versions later.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Rasbery PI digi+ MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Loggia: Raspi hifiberry dac + Adams
    Bathroom : Radio (with battery)
    iPad with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server Intel NUC Esxi VM Linux mint 18 LMS 7.9.2

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triode View Post
    Updated binaries available here: http://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/downloads/list

    These should make the <100% volume work correctly on hardware devices. I hope it also eases the 100% cpu problem when using pulse audio with a non hardware device.

    I've also built a armv6 soft float version.
    Works great thank you

    Now i can use the hardware and use the volume no static .

    I can also use default and mix the sound with the system sound without 100% cpu .

    This might be painfully obvious to many linux buffs but ,using my mint 13 desktop i observed :

    For Hi-Fi use ,use the hw: approach you get full control of the hardware , but it monopolises that hardware (no system sound etc ) which is exactly what you want ! i do not have USB DAC around otherwise I would have tested that one to.
    I have a multichannel sound card so i could use some other device possibly and I also have an hdmi output which is another possibility.

    If I want to mix the sound i use default , now the squeezelite sound is mixed with the rest of the OS sounds with pulseaudio this is ok for casual use , but note that it is mixed and mixed sound will be transcoded to a common sample rate for the dac in the sound card .

    So in this case it's controlled by /etc/pulse/daemon.conf the default for Linux Mint is s16le 44100 everything mixes to this common rate or in the case of CD that already is the right rate it's not re-sampled .
    Make a suitable compromise here or exploit this mixer for your purpose ,( do figure what your sound-card is capable to first )
    You fudge with "default-sample-format " ,"default-sample-rate " and "resample-method" (resample-method is a cornucopia of algorithms from the very crude to the very best there is ).
    This obviously affects cpu load so for casual desktop use it might not be wise to resample youtube to s32le 192000 using src-sinc-best-quality

    If you have Sound quality demands you should go the dedicated hardware route getting and soundcard or USB device that you direct SqueezeLite too .


    arm version ? who will be the first to build a rasberry/squeezelite USB dac combo ?
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Rasbery PI digi+ MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Loggia: Raspi hifiberry dac + Adams
    Bathroom : Radio (with battery)
    iPad with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server Intel NUC Esxi VM Linux mint 18 LMS 7.9.2

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triode View Post
    Updated binaries available here: http://code.google.com/p/squeezelite/downloads/list

    These should make the <100% volume work correctly on hardware devices. I hope it also eases the 100% cpu problem when using pulse audio with a non hardware device.

    I've also built a armv6 soft float version.
    Hi Triode.
    Just tried the new version (32 bit), I still have this stuttering sound problem, but I found out that it is related with the sound level on the LMS-server.
    If I turn the volumen up to 100% in the LMS setting, then the sound is perfect, but as soon I lower it the sound starts to break-up again.

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    I made myself an embarrassingly simple start-up script I'm no linux jedi now squeezlite starts at boot with no user logged in

    I put the program in /opt ?

    This probably lacks some functionality and niceties you should probably deamonize or something?

    I put it in /etc/init.d and symlinked to rc2.d rc3.d ,rc4.d ,rc5.d

    I started to read the manual about upstart which you are supposed to use instead in ubuntu and mint but that made for a good headache .

    Someone debian/ubuntu/mint savy may give a pointer to a "proper" install location and a better starup script

    But i'm happy to have it like this while squeelite still is a alpha/beta project .

    Supose triode want's some more testing before an eventual deb package etc .

    I'm not sure I want to share my script is like a blind leading a blind over a cliff.....
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Rasbery PI digi+ MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Loggia: Raspi hifiberry dac + Adams
    Bathroom : Radio (with battery)
    iPad with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server Intel NUC Esxi VM Linux mint 18 LMS 7.9.2

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Works great for me on 32-bit Ubuntu 10.10 using Pulseaudio - but only with 44.1 kHz material. 96K material produces no output. My /etc/pulse/daemon.conf has the default sample rate (44100), but apparently squeezelite doesn't downconvert, nor tell LMS to downconvert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julf View Post
    Works great for me on 32-bit Ubuntu 10.10 using Pulseaudio - but only with 44.1 kHz material. 96K material produces no output. My /etc/pulse/daemon.conf has the default sample rate (44100), but apparently squeezelite doesn't downconvert, nor tell LMS to downconvert.
    I may be wrong (again) but is not pulseaudio suposed to do that if direct squezelite at "default" during startup ?
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Main hifi: Rasbery PI digi+ MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub.
    Bedroom/Office: Boom
    Loggia: Raspi hifiberry dac + Adams
    Bathroom : Radio (with battery)
    iPad with iPengHD & SqueezePad
    (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller )
    server Intel NUC Esxi VM Linux mint 18 LMS 7.9.2

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    I may be wrong (again) but is not pulseaudio suposed to do that if direct squezelite at "default" during startup ?
    I was assuming "default" would make it use the standard pulseaudio "mixed-in" system (and I am OK with that, as I want to be able to hear other applications too), but if squeezelite doesn't do the downsampling itself, shouldn't it tell LMS that is only capable of 44.1, and have LMS downsample?

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