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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    Not at all.
    Sonos has autonomous players. That would have been the way to go here, too. The Radio has all the capabilities required.
    pippin, a bit off topic, but do you understand the technical reason that SONOS has the library size limitation. Must be one I assume.....
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    New Squeezebox Radio

    >> OTOH this simplifies playing music from different servers: if you run
    >> multiple UEML instances in your network, you would see all of them when
    >> entering the My Music menu. Just browse one of them, add tracks. Go back
    >> to the other server, add more tracks etc. Mixed playlists without
    >> "switching" servers.

    >
    > I like that. Reduces one big problem that new users typically have
    > users.


    IMHO it's one of the key improvements for many users indeed. But it's not
    for me :-)

    > - is there still an option to sync devices?


    Yes, but only within the Smart Radio family.

    > - will firmware and the server code keep OpenSource or did you switch to
    > closed source now?


    I think we can't (thanks to the licensing schema we have been using in the
    past). I'm no expert in this topic, but it was part of Ben's pushing to
    change the license of the SP code a while back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    > However, it doesn't really help if you only have Radios around. Even
    > syncing is not something that's a core feature for that little mono unit


    It is. Syncing is still there.
    That's not what I meant.
    What I mean is the marketing perspective: People won't buy this thing for it's sync capability as long as it's the only device around because it's a bedside and kitchen radio and multiroom sync is a secondary feature for this. It's nice to be able to sync your kitchen radio to your main system in the living or dining room but there's no point in syncing the kitchen to the bedroom only while your dining room is playing something else.

    Unless some other unit gets introduced and as long as you can't use it with Squeezeboxes, sync is a non-feature.
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    New Squeezebox Radio

    > Unless some other unit gets introduced and as long as you can't use it
    > with Squeezeboxes, sync is a non-feature.


    Buy two of them to get stereo sound (yes, I think that option has slipped
    in. Don't tell anyone)! :-)

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    Sad, sad, sad. Maybe some Venture Capitalist or Trust-Fund-Kid in search of a hobby can step in and buy the intellectual capital of SB from Logitech. There's still money-making potential for a small operation here. Logitech's approach of turning Slim Devices product line for tech savvy music aficionados with very specific needs into high volume user-friendly plug-n-play hardware product line failed. Why?... You name it... bad marketing, bureaucracy and indifference from the top Logitech honchos just looking to turn a quick profit. Slim Devices was very much a small community influenced private operation that "relied" on third party developers and feedback from the community to enhance its product line. Logitech was never that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    pippin, a bit off topic, but do you understand the technical reason that SONOS has the library size limitation. Must be one I assume.....
    Each Sonos devices has a little computer/server embedded (think of each Sonos devices like a SB-Touch, but with no harddrive directly attached).
    Each devices stores the full music index and the index cannot be bigger than the inbuilt SD-card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    > .... It is. Syncing is still there.....
    Good news and makes sense to grow single box users into multiple box users.
    But will the new online only UE server be limited in Sync capabilities as is the current MySB online Sync? i.e. Accurate/tight Sync is not possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegaspode View Post
    Each Sonos devices has a little computer/server embedded (think of each Sonos devices like a SB-Touch, but with no harddrive directly attached).
    Each devices stores the full music index and the index cannot be bigger than the inbuilt SD-card.
    aha. that explains why having lots of metadata within a tag can reduce the library size below 65k. Isn't this something they could improve on in future hardware (larger SD-Cards?)
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    Only if you scrap ALL of your legacy devices from the network.

    One should say that Sonos, too, hasn't done _anything_ to improve their core functionality, they've only added active speakers and they are good at supporting online services. Which might be enough.

    The product looks dated, too: they only support 44.1/16 audio, since they scrapped their own controller you can't use the full capabilities of the mesh network unless you have one of those Android devices that can connect to it to use as a controller because you always need traditional WiFi in parallel to control the whole thing and yes, the limit hasn't moved as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidstypike View Post
    Michael

    How far away from a "UE Touch" are we?
    Ok, I'll put it another way:

    I have here a brand new unopened SB Touch. I had planned to go to my sister's place on Saturday, to open a MySB.com account for her, install LMS on a brand new PC (bought specifically as a music server/ripping station), and set-up the SB Touch, adding a couple of SB Radios when she was comfortable with the Touch et al.

    Which is my best option now that the UERadio has been announced?

    Proceed as intended, or, initially buy a UERadio and wait for a UE Touch?

    Your help would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks
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