soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

[CaptBeyond]

Is TT3 available from a non-Google location?

[SBGK]

triode enhanced digital output

these are for ethernet connected digital out, no usb dac - install tt3.0 after triode mod and then make these changes

not sure if this is the best set up, but it works for me and takes the Touch to a new level.



I made these changes to make TT3.0 work with the triode settings, TT -b won't work, so the buffer is set at 92790, just change that value for the one you want where you see 92790 below.

cheers

edit 12/04/12

the initial settings had a lack of bass, which I have now solved by editing file /etc/squeezeplay/userpath/settings/EnhancedDigitalOutput.lua

I had cpuIdleFullspeed=true which was causing the cpu to run flat out and of course that means more jitter, so the increased detail was partly due to this jitter effect. now the bass is back better than ever.


change the loadPriority setting in /usr/share/jive/applets/EnhancedDigitalOutput/loadPriority.lua from loadPriority=0 to loadPriority=1

and

for file /etc/squeezeplay/userpath/settings/EnhancedDigitalOutput.lua

ensure the settings are as below

settings = {autoKernelUpdate=true,bufferTime=92790,playbackDe vice="TXRX",sampleSize=24,embeddedTTHack=false,cpu IdleFullspeed=false,periodCount=4,firstUse=false,}


file /etc/squeezeplay/userpath/settings/SqueezeboxFab4.lua change hw:0,0 to TXRX as below

settings = {brightnessMinimal=1,alsaPlaybackPeriodCount=4,als aSampleSize=24,alsaPlaybackDevice="TXRX",brightnes sControl="manual",brightness=1,cleanReboot=false,a lsaPlaybackBufferTime=92790,}

and

file /usr/share/jive/applets/SqueezeboxFab4/SqueezeboxFab4Meta.lua change hw:0,0 to TXRX as below

function defaultSettings(meta)
return {
alsaPlaybackDevice = "TXRX",
alsaPlaybackBufferTime = 92790,
alsaPlaybackPeriodCount = 4,
--JIVE2alsaEffectsDevice = "plughw:2,0",
--JIVE2alsaEffectsBufferTime = 92790,
--JIVE2alsaEffectsPeriodCount = 4,
alsaSampleSize = 24,
}


and

-- fix buffer time
settings.alsaPlaybackBufferTime = 92790
--JIVE2settings.--JIVE2alsaEffectsBufferTime = 92790

[SBGK]

Hi rez

The only problem with these triode + TT3.0 + SBGK mods is that it has enhanced the playback of 16/44.1 to such an extent that I need a display of the sample rate to let me know whether it should sound good as 16/44.1 can't possibly sound this good.

Can't say that I could tell a well recorded 16/44.1 from 24/192 now which is a nice dilema to have.

so it's no wonder the usb dacs sound good with the triode mods, the whole quality of the sound has been enhanced to a fantastic extent, the output from the sp/dif is at a level of sound quality I would not have believed a couple of days ago.

It does sound a bit digital and rough without the TT3.0 and SBGK mods, but that would probably be ok in most systems, so if you don't like TT3.0 you should try the triode mods if you have sp/dif or toslink output.

[magiccarpetride]

The only problem with these triode + TT3.0 + SBGK mods is that it has enhanced the playback of 16/44.1 to such an extent that I need a display of the sample rate to let me know whether it should sound good as 16/44.1 can't possibly sound this good.

Can't say that I could tell a well recorded 16/44.1 from 24/192 now which is a nice dilema to have.

so it's no wonder the usb dacs sound good with the triode mods, the whole quality of the sound has been enhanced to a fantastic extent, the output from the sp/dif is at a level of sound quality I would not have believed a couple of days ago.

It does sound a bit digital and rough without the TT3.0 and SBGK mods, but that would probably be ok in most systems, so if you don't like TT3.0 you should try the triode mods if you have sp/dif or toslink output.

Can't wait to try this tonight. Just when I thought that I've reached the very limits of ultimate tweakorama with SBT, you guys managed to yet again push the envelope

Gotta love digital technology -- breakthroughs keep coming for $0.00!

[magiccarpetride]

The only problem with these triode + TT3.0 + SBGK mods is that it has enhanced the playback of 16/44.1 to such an extent that I need a display of the sample rate to let me know whether it should sound good as 16/44.1 can't possibly sound this good.

Can't say that I could tell a well recorded 16/44.1 from 24/192 now which is a nice dilema to have.

so it's no wonder the usb dacs sound good with the triode mods, the whole quality of the sound has been enhanced to a fantastic extent, the output from the sp/dif is at a level of sound quality I would not have believed a couple of days ago.

It does sound a bit digital and rough without the TT3.0 and SBGK mods, but that would probably be ok in most systems, so if you don't like TT3.0 you should try the triode mods if you have sp/dif or toslink output.

Sorry, false alarm, apologies...

[SBGK]

so the greatest advancement in sound quality for the Touch, that I have heard, doesn't raise any intellectual curiosity amongst the denizens of the premier Squeezebox community forum ?

I am talking about the triode enhanced digital mods + TT3.0 + other mods. In a vendor supported forum why would people not be willing to talk about mods which turn a £200 device into a device that can quite happily be a front end to a £10000+ system, very puzzling.

This forum increasingly reminds me of the Monty Python Dead Parrot sketch

is this an ex audiophile forum ?


The Pet Shoppe
A customer enters a pet shop.
Customer: 'Ello, I wish to register a complaint.
(The owner does not respond.)
C: 'Ello, Miss?
Owner: What do you mean "miss"?
C: I'm sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!
O: We're closin' for lunch.
C: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
O: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
C: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
O: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
C: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
O: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
C: The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
O: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!
C: All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up!
(shouting at the cage)
'Ello, Mister Polly Parrot! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show...(owner hits the cage)
O: There, he moved!
C: No, he didn't, that was you hitting the cage!
O: I never!!
C: Yes, you did!
O: I never, never did anything...
C: (yelling and hitting the cage repeatedly) 'ELLO POLLY!!!!!
Testing! Testing! Testing! Testing! This is your nine o'clock alarm call!
(Takes parrot out of the cage and thumps its head on the counter. Throws it up in the air and watches it plummet to the floor.)
C: Now that's what I call a dead parrot.
O: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!
C: STUNNED?!?
O: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Blues stun easily, major.
C: Um...now look...now look, mate, I've definitely 'ad enough of this. That parrot is definitely deceased, and when I purchased it not 'alf an hour ago, you assured me that its total lack of movement was due to it bein' tired and shagged out following a prolonged squawk.
O: Well, he's...he's, ah...probably pining for the fjords.
C: PININ' for the FJORDS?!?!?!? What kind of talk is that?, look, why did he fall flat on his back the moment I got 'im home?
O: The Norwegian Blue prefers kippin' on it's back! Remarkable bird, id'nit, squire? Lovely plumage!
C: Look, I took the liberty of examining that parrot when I got it home, and I discovered the only reason that it had been sitting on its perch in the first place was that it had been NAILED there.
(pause)
O: Well, o'course it was nailed there! If I hadn't nailed that bird down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and VOOM! Feeweeweewee!
C: "VOOM"?!? Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!
O: No no! 'E's pining!
C: 'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker!
'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies!

'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig!

'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!!
THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!
(pause)
O: Well, I'd better replace it, then.
(he takes a quick peek behind the counter)
O: Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of parrots.
C: I see. I see, I get the picture.
O: I got a slug.
(pause)
C: (sweet as sugar) Pray, does it talk?
O: Nnnnot really.
C: WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!?
O: Look, if you go to my brother's pet shop in Bolton, he'll replace the parrot for you.
C: Bolton, eh? Very well.
The customer leaves.
The customer enters the same pet shop. The owner is putting on a false moustache.
C: This is Bolton, is it?
O: (with a fake mustache) No, it's Ipswitch.
C: (looking at the camera) That's inter-city rail for you.
The customer goes to the train station.
He addresses a man standing behind a desk marked "Complaints".
C: I wish to complain, British-Railways Person.
Attendant: I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS JOB, YOU KNOW!!!
C: I beg your pardon...?
A: I'm a qualified brain surgeon! I only do this job because I like being my own boss!
C: Excuse me, this is irrelevant, isn't it?
A: Yeah, well it's not easy to pad these python files out to 200 lines, you know.
C: Well, I wish to complain. I got on the Bolton train and found myself deposited here in Ipswitch.
A: No, this is Bolton.
C: (to the camera) The pet shop man's brother was lying!!
A: Can't blame British Rail for that.
C: In that case, I shall return to the pet shop!
He does.
C: I understand this IS Bolton.
O: (still with the fake mustache) Yes?
C: You told me it was Ipswitch!
O: ...It was a pun.
C: (pause) A PUN?!?
O: No, no...not a pun...What's that thing that spells the same backwards as forwards?
C: (Long pause) A palindrome...?
O: Yeah, that's it!
C: It's not a palindrome! The palindrome of "Bolton" would be "Notlob"!! It don't work!!
O: Well, what do you want?
C: I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!
Sergeant-Major: Quite agree, quite agree, too silly, far too silly...

[bluegaspode]

We are going round in cycles, aren't we?

- You always claim you (and mcr) - yet again - made the sound 100 times better.
- Yet again you are using tweaks which actually are very unlikely to change anything at all (like applet loading priority, or triodes Applet influencing SPDIF) .
- yet again we point out that with very high priority this all is just placebo and just in your head
- and then we arrive at the point where mcr points out that also drinking wine suffers from placebo effects like the glass he is using.
- then we suggest that painting your walls might have even more influence on your perceived Touches sound than all the Mods you are applying.
- you refuse to paint your walls, we refuse to try the mods.
- next mod arrives, start at step #1

Guess this sums it up pretty well.

C: I'm not prepared to pursue my line of inquiry any longer as I think this is getting too silly!
Sergeant-Major: Quite agree, quite agree, too silly, far too silly...

My personal opinion by the way: triodes Applet wiped TT3, you are back at stock firmware. For you just the tweaking process alone is good enough placebo to enjoy your music even more.

Which is perfectly fine by the way, one can be really jeleous about the way you are enjoying your music.
Yet your descriptions don't convince me at all to follow your route.

[TheOctavist]

so the greatest advancement in sound quality for the Touch, that I have heard, doesn't raise any intellectual curiosity amongst the denizens of the premier Squeezebox community forum ?

.

no, because it is rubbish.

if you used room correction or treatment and made those proclamations, I would personally listen. but these dubious claims about processes that can NOT POSSIBLY influence the SBT sq??? boring.

maybe geoff kait or may belt would discuss with you. pink fish media is full of those types too. stereophile forum also

[mherger]

I'm sorry guys. This thread doesn't make any sense any more and is wasting way too much of our time.

This thread is closed.