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    iPeng Update: More Music: SoundCloud, Aupeo, hypem.com... anyone?

    iPeng 1.4 and iPeng for iPad 1.2 just hit the App Store.
    They complete the sharing and web capabilities that were gradually introduced since iPeng 1.x.4.

    More Music Services Anyone?
    Create “Web Apps” in iPeng


    One of the features a Squeezebox is really good at is integration with online music sources. It supports Spotify, Pandora, Napster and a wealth of other services and even where there is no support from Logitech directly there are 3rd party plugins for things like BBC iPlayer and YouTube .
    However, the Squeezebox doesn’t cover everything and there are other services it does NOT support, yet, like SoundCloud, The Hype Machine, Aupeo! and probably dozens to hundreds of others.
    Now, if these services offer an HTML-5 enabled web page (that is: they can play on your iPhone/iPad without a dedicated App) chances are that iPeng can somewhat help you with these.
    It’s not a perfect replacement (see the limitations below) but it’s usually good for playing single tracks and it’s a great way to play all these links others might send you via mail, facebook, Twitter or Google+.

    The Browser
    Already since iPeng 1.3.4/1.1.4 there were additional features allowing you access to e.g. facebook and Wikipedia through a browser and giving you a sharing feature for the music you are listening to.
    Now, we’ve extended these features to integrate a full-blown browser under “Extras” in iPeng, allowing you to set and manage bookmarks and to add these bookmarks as “Web Apps” to your “My Apps” list in iPeng.
    iPeng also now comes with a set of predefined bookmarks you can try.

    How it Works
    Essentially what this does is it takes the music that the web page tries to play on the browser and sends it to the Squeezebox instead. Just search for “Play” buttons on the web site and try them out. If it works, you will get a context menu for “Play”, “Add”, “Add Next” and “Save to Favorites”.

    Limitations: What it can NOT do
    Even though this often gives you a right-away access to services you have to be aware that from a Squeezebox point of view this is a bit of a kludge. It will NOT replace a fully integrated Squeezebox “App” or Plugin because your Squeezebox will still not understand about the service it is playing. It just gets a link from iPeng it should play and that usually works but other features may be difficult.
    In a lot of cases, you will only get Track (Meta-) information after the playback of a track has actually started. In no cases will you be able to search the service’s library from a playing track and a lot of services have limits on how long a stream is valid so you might not be able to do more than just a simple “play” of a track (e.g. for SoundCloud) or a track might only be valid for a few hours.
    An additional limitation is something you’ll see with a lot of “Custom Radio” type services like 8Tracks or Aupeo! These services play a track and when playback has ended, their web page will automatically start a new one. Now this doesn’t work in iPeng because the web page is loaded in the browser while the music is actually playing on the Squeezebox so that the web page will never know when to play something new. In this case you will have to manually select a new track again.
    And then there are of course those services that require you to use their own App on iOS, no chance for these.

    Tell Me About Your Experience
    Please try this out and if you encounter web sites that work very well, please let me know so I can extend the bookmark list I ship with iPeng in the future.
    And if you encounter sites that do not work but that you would like to use, please let me know, too, maybe there is a workaround we could builtd into iPeng; we were successful with such an approach for SoundCloud for example.

    Some Examples and Special Considerations
    Here are a few examples of services and the limitations they have
    • SoundCloud: SoundCloud have two types of links you can use, streams and downloads although the mobile site we linked in iPeng usually only supports streams (and most of the content also doesn’t have a download link). Download links are permanent but stream links will only be valid for a few seconds. This means you can NOT bookmark them and usually you also can not queue them up in a play list, you have to play them immediately.
    • Aupeo!; Aupeo! is an example of a service that has customized “stations” you can play. Here, only the first track will play after you hit the button and if you want to add another one you have to “skip” and “play” again. Aupeo! links are valid for a few hours, though, so you can queue up a number of these links to play a whole station (unless you run into a skip limit).
    • 8tracks: 8tracks has a special WebApp it uses on iOS by default. This WebApp takes full control over your browser window and does not allow you to play stuff on your Squeezebox but instead ask you to immediately play a file which is just silence. However, if you hit the “8tacks” logo at the top of that page you can switch to the non-mobile version of their web page which will allow you to play their streams and will have a similar usage scheme as Aupeo!
    • Google Music Beta: Actually, even Google Music Beta somehow works but unless they decide to add a mobile site the user interface from within iPeng is so awkward that I would not call that “supported”. What you can do is select a track from your library and then hit the “Play” button at the bottom of your page and this will actually play the content. The upside is that the links are valid for quite a while.

    As usual: have fun and let all of us know about your experience!

    http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2011/08/...rvices-anyone/
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    Would it be possible for iPeng to access image and pdf* files in a music folder on the SB server?

    * Assuming a PDF reader is installed on the iPod.

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    A pdf reader is always present on iOS but you'd need a way to get the files to the iPod.
    iPeng can't "see" your files, after all it's on a different machine.
    If some plugin or the server would provide a URL to a pdf file, iPeng would open it.
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    New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch

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    Thanks this has now become really useful for me and works like a charm.

    For discovering music on spotify I have found these two sites very useful.
    http://pitchify.com
    and
    http://spotimy.co.uk/

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    iPeng 1.4.1 / 1.2.1 available

    iPeng 1.4.1/1.2.1 is out. It fixes some bugs and adds some minor improvements. Plus it adds some smaller features:

    Bug fixes:
    • “Reconnect Bug”. iPeng should no longer stall for 60s under certain conditions while trying to reconnect to the server when coming back from the background.
    • The “Volume HUD” should no longer appear when iPeng is entered or left unless you use playback.
    • The volume should no longer automatically change when entering iPeng
    • iPeng should no longer stay active in the background for up to 10min when there is no data loading to be completed.

    New Features:
    • In iPeng’s browser you can now paste the current track’s details into entry fields. This can be used to post links to the current track to e.g. Google+ or Internet Forums.
    • You can “Power Off All” players by holding the main power control.
    • You can play all Favorites as a playlist.
    • If long text gets clipped in tables (e.g. for Biographies) you can tap the text to get an extra view for the complete content.
    • Twitter timeline now also shows retweets.

    The smaller improvements include
    • Delete command for the clipboard when the automatic "play URL from clipboard menu" comes up but also ignores a URL in the clipboard after the menu has been shown once until you do a "hard restart".
    • There are also some improvements to the SoundCloud support especially for links to SoundCloud
    • Triode's Spotify Plugin is fully supported again.
    • Slideshows should now be shown in some more cases (although not as slide shows but as a list) except for the new ones in LMS.

    Have fun!
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    Oh, and if you use iOS 5 Google Music Beta gets quite usable
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    New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch

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    Hello Pippin,

    Thanks for the updates.

    Could you please make it a priority for the next version, that hitting the "volume -" control does not bring up the multiplayer control popup almost all the time?

    This is uberly frustrating imho, and I don't think I gave fat fingers or anything...

    I have absolutely no other concern with iPeng, it's a fantastic app and it completely renews the squeezebox (duet in my case) experience.

    Regards,
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    hey Pippin, ive got a small issue witch has been annoying for quite a while;
    when i add an entire album it always starts playing the second song, skipping the first song for some reason. its nothing that a simple push of a button cant fix but ive got no idea what it keeps happening. could you offer me any insight? thanks in advance

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    If you say "add", how do you "add" it (Add next or Add to end?) and what's already in the playlist?

    Local library or online service (Spotify,...)?

    Which server version is this?
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    Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App,
    at penguinlovesmusic.com
    New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch

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    Ok im sorry, i should have been more specific. I play All my music from my local library, latest vortexbox with SBS 7.6.1. But, iirc ive had tuhis problem since before this version of SBS and Ipeng. When i have an empty playlist, and i choose and album, it lists All the songs in that album, and on top i have the ''add all'' option. So when i press that it adds All the tracks to my playlist, in the correct order, but it immediately starts playing the second song. This happens on both my iPhone and iPod touch.
    Last edited by Hajaz; 2011-09-23 at 14:38.

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