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    Announce: Whitebear updated version

    An updated version of Whitebear has been released:

    http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver

    Featuring improvements to the "Play To" feature, usability improvements in the Tray Monitor, and an added Status page in the Tray Monitor.

    { prior thread is here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80632 }
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    Announce: Whitebear updated version

    >An updated version of Whitebear has been released:
    >

    Thanks for the update.

    I think there's a problem with the Squeezebox Server Login settings though - it only allows me to enter 5 chars in the user name and password fields.

    Where do the settings get stored (I might be able to manually enter the right values into the Registry or settings file?)

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Meyer View Post
    >An updated version of Whitebear has been released:
    >

    Thanks for the update.

    I think there's a problem with the Squeezebox Server Login settings though - it only allows me to enter 5 chars in the user name and password fields.

    Where do the settings get stored (I might be able to manually enter the right values into the Registry or settings file?)

    Phil
    Look for the file "mediaserver.settings" in a folder named "whitebear" under the common application data folder. (The exact location of the common application data folder depends on your O/S version). You can open and edit this file with Notepad.
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    Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of:
    1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and,
    2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players
    Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver

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    Announce: Whitebear updated version

    >Look for the file "mediaserver.settings" in a folder named "whitebear"
    >under the common application data folder. (The exact location of the
    >common application data folder depends on your O/S version). You can
    >open and edit this file with Notepad.
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    Corrected prefs.

    However, I still get "Socket Error # 10053 - Software caused connection abort" when I visit the Whitebear Status tab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Meyer View Post
    However, I still get "Socket Error # 10053 - Software caused connection abort" when I visit the Whitebear Status tab.
    Can you be more specific? Are you running Whitebear as a service or as an application? And how do you see the socket error message (presumably not actually on the Status tab?). Could you perhaps post a screenshot?
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    Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of:
    1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and,
    2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players
    Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver

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    very cool...

    you and a guy at winamp seem to be developing similar stuff, which is great. maybe you can share notes, or test his stuff on yours, etc.

    http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=320803

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    Announce: Whitebear updated version

    >> However, I still get "Socket Error # 10053 - Software caused connection
    >> abort" when I visit the Whitebear Status tab.

    >
    >Can you be more specific? Are you running Whitebear as a service or as
    >an application? And how do you see the socket error message (presumably
    >not actually on the Status tab?). Could you perhaps post a screenshot?
    >

    Trying to run as an application at the moment.

    When I click on the Status tab, I get the error in a modal popup dialog.

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Meyer View Post
    Trying to run as an application at the moment.
    When I click on the Status tab, I get the error in a modal popup dialog.
    Phil
    Phil,

    Thank you for the feedback.

    Evidently I did not really think through all the implications of using password protected login to SBS.

    For example it seems that protected login applies to the HTTP interface on port 9000 as well as to the CLI interface on port 9090. This may mean that Whitebear can't offer the SBS album art Url to the UPnP client because the client also needs login credentials in order to download the images.

    The consequence of this is that I may need to change Whitebear's architecture so it acts as a proxy server between the clients and SBS rather that just letting the clients download direct from SBS.

    This modification may take some time. So in the meantime, my recommendation is to forego the password protected login to SBS for the time being...
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    2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSinatra View Post
    very cool...

    you and a guy at winamp seem to be developing similar stuff, which is great. maybe you can share notes, or test his stuff on yours, etc.

    http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=320803
    No. Actually, it is not similar at all!

    He is developing a Media Control Point. And Whitebear is a Media Server and a Media Renderer which is a totally different thing. See flow charts below...

    1) Control Point [Browse Music Library] <= Whitebear Media Server <= SBS Music Library

    2) Control Point [Play Music] <= Whitebear Media Server <= SBS Music Files

    3) Control Point [Play To] => Whitebear Media Renderer => Squeeze Players

    There are many possible Control Points (Windows Media Player, Cidero, FooBar, Asset Control, various i-Phone/Pad apps, and now Winamp, to name a few). But only one Whitebear to serve them all :-)
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    AndrewFG

    Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of:
    1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and,
    2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players
    Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrewFG View Post
    For example it seems that protected login applies to the HTTP interface on port 9000 as well as to the CLI interface on port 9090. This may mean that Whitebear can't offer the SBS album art Url to the UPnP client because the client also needs login credentials in order to download the images.
    Hi Phil,

    I have been thinking deeply about this. If you choose to set up Squeezebox Server to require authentication of clients that is your choice. But given your requirement for authentication it is certainly not the role of the middleware (in this case Whitebear) to try to circumvent the authentication scheme by interpolating itself between the client and the server.

    Therefore I decided that I will NOT add such proxy/authentication server capability to Whitebear. If you want your UPnP Control Points to download the artwork (and also MP3 streams) from Squeezebox Server, then you must ensure that your chosen UPnP Control Point client provides the necessary credentials on its own behalf.

    I have tested it with Windows Media Player, and at least this client does have the capability to provide credentials and authenticate itself against Squeezebox Server. However, I am pretty sure that you will find that some of the UPnP Control Points out there do not have that capability.

    However, notwithstanding the above, I have posted a new version of Whitebear on my web site that fixes the other authentication related issues that you mentioned in your earlier e-mail. (Such as the 5 character limit, and the socket error).
    Last edited by AndrewFG; 2010-10-08 at 09:56.
    Regards,
    AndrewFG

    Try out Whitebear. The middleware that joins the two worlds of:
    1. UPnP/DLNA media clients and media players, and,
    2. Squeezebox Server and Squeeze Players
    Download it for free here: http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver

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