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    Setting up 96/24 FLAC on SB2/SB3

    Hi, I haven't been to these forums for a long time. Just been doing some searching but can't find anything that tells me definitively how to enable the auto downsampling of high res 96/24 or 88/24 FLAC files to 48/24 or 44/24 to play on my SB2.

    Yesterday I upgraded from SqueezeCentre 7.4 (Feb '09) to the latest released SqueezeBox Server 7.4.1 (Oct '09) and updated firmware from 124 to 130. I downloaded a 96/24 album in FLAC from Linn Records. It was scanned into the database OK and plays fine through the PC speakers via Media Monkey, but when I try to play it using the SqueezeBox Server Web Control interface the track seems to try to start playing but the time counter only gets to 1 or 2 then drops back to 0 or 1 and keeps repeating that process.

    Are there any steps I have to do before it works? I could find no instructions in SqueezeBox Server on this. The only comment I could find seemed to indicate that it should just work automatically using SOX which is contained within SqueezeBox Server.

    Many thanks for any help.

    EDIT: If it matters, in the FILE TYPES section of Advanced tab in SqueezeBox Server, in the FLAC section, I have Flac=Native (only other option is Disabled, MP3=greyed out, PCM=flac (only other option is Disabled). I can see that there is a Flac/Sox option for some of the other file types, but not under the FLAC section. ???
    Last edited by DSK; 2010-02-21 at 01:36.

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    it should work fine with the default settings you don't have to do anything at all, the servers knows if a Player only supports 24/48 and take the appropriate steps and runs SOX and FLAC.

    That mp3 is greyd out probably means that lame is not installed on the system

    As you can set PCM=flac probably means that FLAC is installed on your system ?

    Ok What is the OS and Hardware ?

    The SOX exe is not available for all kinds of hardware and OS are you on a NAS.

    The transcoding process is pretty CPU intesnsive
    the machine should have an x86 CPU with floating point math >=1.2GHz

    What does the server.log says when you try to start the track ?
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    C2D 2.6ghz
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    You are right about Lame not being installed (I gather that this is not relevant to my problem?)


    Will check the log...

    EDIT: OK, server.log says ...

    [20:12:32.2136] Slim::Player::Song:pen (404) Error: Couldn't create command line for flc playback for [file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/06%20-%20Where%20Were%20You.flac]
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    That should be hardware enough to do it twice as fast as my server.

    That flc fault message is mysterious ?

    Well how to figure if flac is installed ? should it not be by default these days ?

    I'm not sure where it is on windows but the binaries is in the bin folder
    Maybe

    squeezeboxserver/Bin/MSWin32-x86-multi-thread/ ?

    Or similar ? here you should have:

    alac.exe
    cygwin1.dll
    faad.exe
    flac.exe
    grant.exe
    mac.exe
    mov123.exe
    mppdec.exe
    mysqld.exe
    socketwrapper.exe
    sox.exe
    wmadec.exe
    wvunpack.exe

    If get your hands on lame you should see it here too.

    Did you try with the default settings in filetype and no bitrate limiting for the player as you can play other flac files 16/44.1 and 24/48 ? you probably don't use bit rate limiting (requires lame)?

    If you "ctrl alt del" when playing a 24/96 file you should see a running sox and flac process
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    Yes, FLAC is installed. All my library is FLAC (from redbook rips using EAC with FLAC compresion integrated) and has always worked fine, still does .. it is just the new 24/96 FLAC that I wish to try out (downsampled) that is not working.

    No, I don't use bit rate limiting.

    There's stack of stuff in the server.log but this seems to be the key part ...

    [00:43:10.3924] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (284) params: index => 1 seekdata => undef
    [00:43:10.3929] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stop (607) Song queue is now 0
    [00:43:10.3983] Slim::Player::SongStreamController:ESTROY (45) DESTROY(Slim::Player::SongStreamController=HASH(0x 51d24a4)) live=0
    [00:43:10.3985] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setPlayingStat e (2222) new playing state STOPPED
    [00:43:10.3987] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingSt ate (2235) new streaming state IDLE
    [00:43:10.4015] Slim::Player::Song::new (107) index 1 -> file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/02%20-%20Enough%20for%20Two.flac
    [00:43:10.4018] Slim::Player::Song::new (149) live=2
    [00:43:10.4021] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingSt ate (2235) new streaming state TRACKWAIT
    [00:43:10.4023] Slim::Player::Song:ESTROY (159) DESTROY(Slim::Player::Song=ARRAY(0x7af1c3c)) live=1: index=0, url=file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/01%20-%20It%20s%20All%20Good.flac
    [00:43:10.4026] Slim::Player::Song::getNextSong (228) file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/02%20-%20Enough%20for%20Two.flac
    [00:43:10.4028] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_nextTrackReady (733) 00:04:20:05:d0:44: nextTrack will be index 1
    [00:43:10.4030] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (271) 00:04:20:05:d0:44: NextTrackReady in STOPPED-TRACKWAIT -> Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream
    [00:43:10.4033] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1160) Song queue is now 1
    [00:43:10.4035] Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Stream (1163) 00:04:20:05:d0:44: preparing to stream song index 1
    [00:43:10.4037] Slim::Player::Song:pen (362) file:///G:/Music%20Server%20Library/Dawn%20Langstroth/Highwire/02%20-%20Enough%20for%20Two.flac
    [00:43:10.4044] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (199) Checking to see if flc-flc-*-* is enabled
    [00:43:10.4046] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (207) There are 4 disabled formats...
    [00:43:10.4048] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4050] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4052] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing flc-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4054] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing wav-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4056] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4058] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4060] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-squeezebox2-*
    [00:43:10.4062] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-*-*
    [00:43:10.4064] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4066] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4067] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-squeezebox2-*
    [00:43:10.4069] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-*-*
    [00:43:10.4071] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4073] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4075] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-squeezebox2-*
    [00:43:10.4077] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4079] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (199) Checking to see if flc-flc-*-* is enabled
    [00:43:10.4081] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (207) There are 4 disabled formats...
    [00:43:10.4083] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4085] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4087] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing flc-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4089] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing wav-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4091] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (240) enabled
    [00:43:10.4093] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Found command: -
    [00:43:10.4095] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand 2 (375) Rejecting - because required capability D not supported:
    [00:43:10.4097] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-transcode-*
    [00:43:10.4101] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (199) Checking to see if flc-flc-transcode-* is enabled
    [00:43:10.4103] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (207) There are 4 disabled formats...
    [00:43:10.4105] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-transcode-*
    [00:43:10.4107] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-transcode-*
    [00:43:10.4110] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing flc-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-transcode-*
    [00:43:10.4112] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing wav-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-transcode-*
    [00:43:10.4114] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (240) enabled
    [00:43:10.4115] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Found command: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
    [00:43:10.4118] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand 2 (433) Matched: flc->flc via: [flac] -dcs $START$ $END$ -- $FILE$ | [sox] -q -t wav - -t flac -C 0 $RESAMPLE$ -
    [00:43:10.4123] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (199) Checking to see if flc-flc-*-* is enabled
    [00:43:10.4125] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (207) There are 4 disabled formats...
    [00:43:10.4127] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4129] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4131] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing flc-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4133] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing wav-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4135] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4137] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4140] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-squeezebox2-*
    [00:43:10.4141] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-wma-*-*
    [00:43:10.4143] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4145] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4148] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-squeezebox2-*
    [00:43:10.4150] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-ogg-*-*
    [00:43:10.4152] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-squeezebox2-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4154] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-*-00:04:20:05:d0:44
    [00:43:10.4156] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-squeezebox2-*
    [00:43:10.4157] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4159] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (199) Checking to see if flc-flc-*-* is enabled
    [00:43:10.4161] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (207) There are 4 disabled formats...
    [00:43:10.4163] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4165] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing ape-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4167] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing flc-pcm-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4169] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::enabledFormat (213) Testing wav-flc-*-* vs flc-flc-*-*
    [00:43:10.4171] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (240) enabled
    [00:43:10.4173] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (242) Found command: -
    [00:43:10.4175] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::getConvertCommand 2 (375) Rejecting - because required capability T not supported:
    [00:43:10.4179] Slim::Player::TranscodingHelper::checkBin (232) Checking formats for: flc-flc-transcode-*

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    Ok this is beyond me now how is it setup in settings file formats ?
    You should return to the default settings to be sure.

    like this for example:

    Code:
    FLAC  	FLAC  Native	
    	MP3   flac/lame (or grey as disabled)	
    	PCM   flac
    
    WAV  	FLAC  Sox
    	MP3   Lame (or grey as disabled)
    	PCM   Native
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    why not try 7.4.2?

    There was a reason I went to the 7.4.2 nightly's after also trying 24/96 or 24/88.1 hi-rez files with 7.4.1. Can't remember why I did this, but they play back fine with 7.4.2 - perhaps that's worth a shot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnyb View Post
    Ok this is beyond me now how is it setup in settings file formats ?
    You should return to the default settings to be sure.

    like this for example:

    Code:
    FLAC  	FLAC  Native	
    	MP3   flac/lame (or grey as disabled)	
    	PCM   flac
    
    WAV  	FLAC  Sox
    	MP3   Lame (or grey as disabled)
    	PCM   Native
    Yes, EXACTLY like your example above.

    The only 'reset' option I can see is 'Reset Player Preferences' under the Basic settings but I haven't used this as I'm concerned it will reset stuff other than decoders.

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    The problem you are seeing is symptomatic of a corrupted or incorrectly edited convert.conf or custom_convert.file (or possibly a corrupted server.prefs file)
    You should download and install the latest 7.4.2 nightly and try again.
    If it still doen't work, post another log with audio stream debugging enabed.
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    Thanks Phil.

    I certainly haven't edited any files and I haven't even changed any settings/preferences via the GUI for quite some months. I try to keep the system completely stable as the Bolder modded SB2 is my primary source in the big rig. I'm reluctant to install pre-release software for just this reason.

    During the 7.4.1 installation I answered NO to the prompt to clean up preference files as it gave no explanation as to what that was going to do and I didn't want to lose my settings for handling of multi CD albums, composer etc etc.

    I notice that in the SqueezeBox Server Control Panel there is a Run Cleanup option to 'delete preference files' and 'clean cache folder, including music database, artwork cache etc'. Would running this have any effect on my situation?

    If I end up having to install a pre-release version, am I better to uninstall 7.4.1 before installing the newer version?

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