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    Change for change's sake is bad

    With 7.4, you have managed to make it totally unintuitive to do anything with my squeezebox.
    1) Why is radioio now under MyApps instead of Internet Radio? How do I move it back?
    2) XM Radio which finally was working is now broken again.
    3) Changing the name os the server for the third time to something really long is bad. What was wrong with SqueezeServer? Now I must type
    rcsqueezeboxserver start
    on my linux machine. Too hard to type! And too hard to remember.

    Why don't you have a page that explains the logic for these updates, what has changed, and how to use this again?

    Jim Rome

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    Squeezebox is the trademark. SqueezeServer is not.
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    learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and
    Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App,
    at penguinlovesmusic.com
    New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch

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    So?

    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    Squeezebox is the trademark. SqueezeServer is not.
    The previous incarnation was squeezecenter. The trademark did not matter then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarome View Post
    The previous incarnation was squeezecenter. The trademark did not matter then.
    Yea. I just guessed that that's probably the reason for the change.
    SN is also called "MySqueezebox.com"...
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    Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App,
    at penguinlovesmusic.com
    New: iPeng 9, the Universal App for iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch

  5. #5
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    Mostly it works.

    It can take a little asking.

    I don't get the "easier" nature of SqueezeBox Server vs SqueezeCenter.

    I can say the Sony offering sounds like crap.

    P

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    so how...

    So how do I get radioio back on the Internet Radio Menu. Ditto for XM

    I want as few high level menu items as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarome View Post
    So how do I get radioio back on the Internet Radio Menu. Ditto for XM

    I want as few high level menu items as possible.
    You can't. They are "apps" now, so they are in "My Apps" or in the home (ie, top-level) menu. You can control what goes in the top-level menu via Settings. The specific settings depend on whether you are talking about the SBC menu, or one of the player menus (eg, SB3, Boom).

    If it's too hard to type squeezeboxserver then just use tab-completion and you'll probably be fine with sq[tab], or define an alias.

    Personally I'm not fond of the SbS name or the "apps" concept, but is it really that hard to adapt to these minor changes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarome View Post
    Why don't you have a page that explains the logic for these updates, what has changed, and how to use this again?
    Oh, and I forgot this: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Release_Notes

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    Along the same lines, what's up with the "apple-ification" of the features. First we have the Squeezebox Touch (reminds you of a certain iPod, no?). Now have have "apps" for our squeezeboxes. Those run on an iPod too, don't they? XM/Sirius, Last.FM, Soma, etc. are services, not apps.

    Why do you have to be like Apple to think you're cool?

    Sorry, but I hate to see these cutting edge products trying to fit into the current fashion of another company's products. They are great on their own and don't need ride the coattails of other products.
    Rich
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    Setup: 2 SB3s, 4 Booms, 1 Duet, 1 Receiver, 1 Touch, iPeng on iPod Touch, SqueezeCommander, OrangeSqueeze, and SqueezePlayer on Xoom and Galaxy Player 4.2. CentOS 6.3 Server running LogitechMediaServer 7.7.2 and SqueezeSlave.
    Current library stats: 40,810 songs, 3,153 albums, 582 artists.
    http://www.last.fm/user/maggior

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    Quote Originally Posted by maggior View Post
    ... Now have have "apps" for our squeezeboxes. Those run on an iPod too, don't they? XM/Sirius, Last.FM, Soma, etc. are services, not apps. ...
    I totally agree, they are not apps. The plugins, which remain called just that, *are* applications for the Squeeze platform. That is what squeeze application developers do.
    ...pablo
    Server: Virtual Machine (on VMware Workstation) running Ubuntu 18.04 + LMS 7.9.1
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