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    My personal thoughts on Squeezebox concept.

    On first glimpse, I saw the Squeezebox Duet as a computer-free device(s) that would play Internet radio and my local music if I had it on some ethernet enabled hard disk.
    Since I bought the Duet, 95% of the time it is on "electricity" on my free evenings, it is spend on trying to make the Internet Radio work.I had made it work after a month and a half, and I was ready to make the final installment on my baby's room, but then it came 7.3.3 and again from the beginning.I think that I am used as a beta tester by Logitech when I have never signed in for such a thing.My free evenings are ment to be spend with my newborn baby listening to music, not in front of a screen reading the forum, trying to make this Internet Radio option work.
    Probably a netbook with good speaker system attached would lead me to enjoy life, instead of de-bugging some device that I bought.
    I have nothing against anyone at Logitech.
    The people at the forum and on technical support, do their best to save the situation (and I really thank them), but the end-user pays to enjoy a product, does not pay to start debugging the issues...
    These are my personal thoughts, I think it would be nice if it was forwarded to the managers of Logitech, just as a feedback from a simple user.
    I don't know how other users of the devices feel about the squeezebox concept.I would like to see your thoughts.
    And I am not a fanboy of some other system, I just want the system that I paid to be working as advertised.

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    I like it, I also have no problem running:

    a Transporter, several Squeezeboxes, Boom and a Duet

    We have them all over the house and we enjoy them every day.
    I also have written a plug-in to show who is calling. Something I could not do with other streaming hardware brands.

    I am a happy customer!

    Christian

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    I don't know what your specific issues are, but I just plug in my booms and other squeezeboxes and they just work. And this is in downtown San Francisco where I can see 50+ wifi networks in range.

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    I understand....

    Quote Originally Posted by YanniG View Post
    On first glimpse, I saw the Squeezebox Duet as a computer-free device(s) that would play Internet radio and my local music if I had it on some ethernet enabled hard disk.
    Since I bought the Duet, 95% of the time it is on "electricity" on my free evenings, it is spend on trying to make the Internet Radio work.I had made it work after a month and a half, and I was ready to make the final installment on my baby's room, but then it came 7.3.3 and again from the beginning.I think that I am used as a beta tester by Logitech when I have never signed in for such a thing.My free evenings are ment to be spend with my newborn baby listening to music, not in front of a screen reading the forum, trying to make this Internet Radio option work.
    Probably a netbook with good speaker system attached would lead me to enjoy life, instead of de-bugging some device that I bought.
    I have nothing against anyone at Logitech.
    The people at the forum and on technical support, do their best to save the situation (and I really thank them), but the end-user pays to enjoy a product, does not pay to start debugging the issues...
    These are my personal thoughts, I think it would be nice if it was forwarded to the managers of Logitech, just as a feedback from a simple user.
    I don't know how other users of the devices feel about the squeezebox concept.I would like to see your thoughts.
    And I am not a fanboy of some other system, I just want the system that I paid to be working as advertised.
    My first SB was the DUET and it almost drove me crazy, as any long term participant in this forum can tell you. Now, I have a Duet, extra Controller, SB3, Boom and a Transporter. I can't tell you the exact moment when things turned around for me, but I think it would be unfair and is unfair, to act like the DUET is a simple to use device. Personally, I always recommend the SB3 starting out. It allows you to get the hang of SqueezeCenter and enjoy the music for a while.

    I can tell you things improved for me when I got rid of my NAS and started running SC on a PC. Once the DUET was set up and running on a PC, things just settled in. Then when 7.3 came out, that pretty much sinched the whole thing. I have no issues with the SB experience since 7.3.1..

    Hang in there if you can. These little boxes have so much to offer in entertainment once you get the hang of it.

    Howard
    Last edited by Howard Passman; 2009-07-02 at 09:26.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Passman View Post
    Personally, I always recommend the SB3 starting out.

    These little boxes have so much to offer in entertainment once you get the hang of it.

    Howard
    +1 here. I was successful with a Duet but a zillion emails to the friend I set it up for in the last few months confirms the SB3 as the better option IMHO. I agree also with the OPs sobre remarks. Well put, but like Howard I really hope you sort it out. One tip - once you find a configuration that works with your arrangement of server/OS/devices/remote solutions/filetypes/plugins/extras - stick with it. Turn off automatic updates, set and forget. By way of example I got 6 months perfect, trouble free usage out of 7.3.1. A server/OS on my side change precipitated some fiddling, and another day and I was go with 7.4. But then a router change messed up some of my radio, so back to 7.3.3. Then something changed at SN another month later that affected Linux, and now I'm a happy customer of 7.3.4

    I admit it all sounds a little bonkers but it was my choice to change the server, rock the boat. And at a time when there were a lot of changes going on in the SW. That time of flux continues with 7.4 around the corner somewhere. Like you - most of my issues were with internet radio and music services via SN through SC.

    If you want my advice - and for sure you didn't ask for it - think about an SB3. Sounds radical and like a sales pitch, but it will provide delightful colours for the baby to watch, and will probably be a lot easier to set up. Your situation notwithstanding, they are cheap kit for what they do. Set the Duet aside until a rainy day, and you'll have two synced players in time for toddling.

    However I disagree with the 'little boxes and entertainment comment' - the box is just a convenient and high-quality transport for your tunes. It's gotta remain about the tunes, not the boxes!

    Oh and P.S congratulations you are one fine parent for sharing music with the new baby.
    Lounge: SB3 + Genelec 6010A | Kitchen: SB3 + $80 bookshelf stereo. Top shelf gear. | Bedroom/Terrace - SB Radio| Headless Asus EEE Box & Linux Mint | iPod touch/iPeng
    Traveling: SB Radio.

    "Dear Mother, kindly forward underwear, DAC and those Jensen's I bought offa ebay"

    dingostrategy@last.fm

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    Dingo...

    [QUOTE=Dingostrategy;437458However I disagree with the 'little boxes and entertainment comment' - the box is just a convenient and high-quality transport for your tunes. It's gotta remain about the tunes, not the boxes!
    [/QUOTE]

    Ahhh,but you see the music is the entertainment. There's nothing entertaining about a little plastic box.

    :-)

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    My two duets works great out of the box, every firmware for the last 7 months.
    Receivers are in two different parts of the house.
    The latest firmware has improved the reported signal strength.
    My wife, who is not a gadget person, loves hers.
    She listens to Internet Radio, and browses the library without using a manual or asking me for help.
    I run it off of a Netgear NV+, no problems ( except self inflicted ).
    If I could justify a Transporter it would free up a Duet for the shop ( or perhaps a SB3) :-).
    Just my dumb luck, I guess.
    Mark.

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    I bought the duet about 2 weeks ago. it worked from the start.

    Its true the hand contoller loses connection a bit, and runs a bit slow occasionally. but i leave it for 5 seconds and it catches up. but i have an old crappy wireless setup that needs updating. especially if i want to use the controller in another room.

    But Ive been generally happy and when its working well which is most of the time, its a great bit of kit. However. i do feel a bit sorry for those that bought it when it first came out. i wouldnt rush to be the first for a new one LOL

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    Mine ran great from the beginning, over a year ago - and it get's used daily.

    I recently bought a 2nd that I've set up at my parent's house. Both continue to perform as expected, with very rare and minor issues (certainly no more issues than any other wireless device at either location).

    To the original poster. Logic would seem to suggest that if your previous software version was working great and 7.3.3 has caused you some sort of issue, and considering the fact that no one forced you to upgrade, perhaps you should migrate back to the sw version that you were happy with.

    FWIW, the transition to 7.3.3 for me has been trouble free. My two duets and other devices continue to work very well. From what I understand, 7.3.3 has solved a lot of issues that some were experiencing with what I suspect are questionable wireless networks or routers/ap's.

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    Use SB3, dedicated server (I strongly prefer linux), and wired connections. You will have no problems.

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