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    livedrive etc

    Hello
    Not sure if I'm posting to the correct forum but I'll push on clumsily....

    I was thinking of purchasing a livedrive account (www.livedrive.com) for storage of my data (including music) in the "cloud" as opposed to locally. I have three questions:

    1) After installing the livedrive software, your storage appears as a local drive on your pc (Windows only for now I think) so could I use this with Squeezecentre by setting the music folder on my livedrive "drive" as my Squeezecentre library?

    2) If (1) is true then surely I can store my music in flac format and still stream it from the cloud (unlike mp3tunes which does not support flac). Assuming my internet connection is fast enough, of course.

    3) Have Logitech considered synching livedrive with Squeezenetwork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    Hello
    Not sure if I'm posting to the correct forum but I'll push on clumsily....

    I was thinking of purchasing a livedrive account (www.livedrive.com) for storage of my data (including music) in the "cloud" as opposed to locally.
    Where is the avantage to have your music in the cloud and to access it thru the SC? You still need the SC PC.

    As a backup - OK, as the only place to store my data - NO!

    1) After installing the livedrive software, your storage appears as a local drive on your pc (Windows only for now I think) so could I use this with Squeezecentre by setting the music folder on my livedrive "drive" as my Squeezecentre library?
    I would say yes.

    2) If (1) is true then surely I can store my music in flac format and still stream it from the cloud (unlike mp3tunes which does not support flac). Assuming my internet connection is fast enough, of course.
    And the company server do provide the data in a reliable and continuous stream. Just have a look at the people which do have problems with the lokal network and streaming FLAC.

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    Thanks for the response jo-wie.

    The advantages of storing everything in the cloud are many. I don't need to bother with backups (buying backup devices, the hassle of doing the backup, the electricity etc). I can access my data from any internet enabled device, from anywhere in the world. I can share things with other people easily without having to send email attachments. I can store my contacts in one central accessible place (rather than having multiple contact lists across different email accounts and on my mobile), etc. But I guess these things aren't important to everyone.

    I take your point about the continuous, reliable datastream. Difficult to know this without trying it out.

    I'd still be interested to hear if Logitech have considered partnering with livedrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    Thanks for the response jo-wie.

    The advantages of storing everything in the cloud are many. I don't need to bother with backups (buying backup devices, the hassle of doing the backup, the electricity etc). I can access my data from any internet enabled device, from anywhere in the world. I can share things with other people easily without having to send email attachments. I can store my contacts in one central accessible place (rather than having multiple contact lists across different email accounts and on my mobile), etc. But I guess these things aren't important to everyone.

    I take your point about the continuous, reliable datastream. Difficult to know this without trying it out.

    I'd still be interested to hear if Logitech have considered partnering with livedrive.
    In that case your "backup" would be the original files on your computer. Their server could go down, data can get corrupted, they may go out of business, who knows.... but I would have duplicates of any such files and data regardless of where it is stored.

    They have already partnered with MP3Tunes to do exactly what you wish but in a simpler format and designed specifically for music and live streaming.

    Try streaming a music file from your online data storage to any device or server program to test it yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toby10 View Post
    In that case your "backup" would be the original files on your computer. Their server could go down, data can get corrupted, they may go out of business, who knows.... but I would have duplicates of any such files and data regardless of where it is stored.

    They have already partnered with MP3Tunes to do exactly what you wish but in a simpler format and designed specifically for music and live streaming.

    Try streaming a music file from your online data storage to any device or server program to test it yourself.
    Point taken but they store multiple duplicates for you across different sites. You could take duplicates yourself but your duplicates might fail or be stolen or..... How far do you want to take it? Are you gonna backup your backup of your backup.......?

    I know they've teamed up with MP3Tunes but I've got lots of different types of things to store (videos, photos etc) so Mp3Tunes doesn't really fit my needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    The advantages of storing everything in the cloud are many. I don't need to bother with backups (buying backup devices, the hassle of doing the backup, the electricity etc). I can access my data from any internet enabled device, from anywhere in the world. I can share things with other people easily without having to send email attachments. I can store my contacts in one central accessible place (rather than having multiple contact lists across different email accounts and on my mobile), etc. But I guess these things aren't important to everyone.
    I understand the advantages, but in the special case of a computer which runs the Squeezecenter I do not get the point. It makes no sense in my eyes to load my library from a Internet source to my local SC computer. I would store the data on this computer and keep it in the cloud as a backup or maybe the possibility to access it from different locations and systems.

    I would make sense if it's integrated into Squeezenetwork as MP3Tunes and you get rid of an local computer.

    I have 3 (4 if you include the original CDs :-) ) copies of my music library: a copy on my main PC to work on, a copy on my Linux SC server and a periodic backup on an external drive.

    It's a good idea to have also a storage in the cloud, but I would never go without any local backup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyb View Post
    Point taken but they store multiple duplicates for you across different sites. You could take duplicates yourself but your duplicates might fail or be stolen or..... How far do you want to take it? Are you gonna backup your backup of your backup.......?

    I know they've teamed up with MP3Tunes but I've got lots of different types of things to store (videos, photos etc) so Mp3Tunes doesn't really fit my needs.
    Yes, assuming they stay in business. Ask anyone who purchased music from Yahoo music.

    I'm all for online / offsite storage, but the day I rely solely on a third party to safeguard all my data and files is the day pigs fly!

    I understand you have everything backed up on there, therefore you want that service to be accessible from your SB player for the music stored there. Makes perfect sense.

    But I highly doubt SD has any interest in building a connectivity portal to such file backup systems (assuming these types of systems are even capable of live, real time file streaming). They already have this with MP3Tunes which is a live music streaming service of your uploaded (backup) music files serving music streaming devices like what SD builds.

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