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    From OS X to Windows

    My old G3 (600 MHz PPC) is running out of steam and I think to buy a PC running Windows XP (2,5GHz Intel Core Duo 2) to replace it. I would loke to buy a Mac but a PC is about third the price and I intend to use it only as a music server. Anyone has experience switching their SqueezeCenter from OS X to Windows? My mini-LAN is OS X only (3 computers including the server). I知 controlling the SC server from another computer via VNC - is is easy to control a Windows server from a Mac? Is transition from iTunes OS X to iTunes Windows simple?

    Thanks!

    JMG

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    How about a Mac Mini?
    Nettop?
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    If it's just for running SC, then a basic windows PC is probably the best bang for your buck you can get. You should be able to find a clearance special or something that fits your needs.

    I don't think there is a difference between iTunes on Windows or Mac, but having never used it I can't say for sure.

    using VLC isn't going to be a problem, you can use any combination of OS for the client or server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pippin View Post
    How about a Mac Mini?
    Nettop?
    A Mac Mini would be fine, perhaps used. I didn't know about Nettop computers. Will check that. I guess the faster, the better...

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    Old Mac Minis are fine for SC, although I admit that the response to
    iPeng is slow on mine. I run it on an early-ish one one not much
    faster than your current G3 (the 800MHz version, to be precise),
    under OSX 10.4.11 and it can take 10 or 15 seconds for sound to
    reach the speakers after poking "play". Sometimes it feels as though
    the music flows along the cables like cool lava... Otherwise there's
    only a problem if the Mini is running something else that hogs
    processor/storage, which wouldn't arise in your case, or else my
    neighbour uses the microwave. No stuttering otherwise, using a
    bridged ethernet/Airport Extreme (g) connection.

    Anyway, one of the later, faster PPC versions seems much easier than
    re-jigging your whole set-up.....although even the cheaper of the new
    Minis would probably work blast the bits out like a pyroclastic
    flow.....

    Geraint.

    On 22 Apr 2009, at 16:58, JMG wrote:

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    > pippin;417386 Wrote:
    >> How about a Mac Mini?
    >> Nettop?

    >
    > A Mac Mini would be fine, perhaps used. I didn't know about Nettop
    > computers. Will check that. I guess the faster, the better...
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    Mac Mini G4 are fine. I use a 1.5gHz version with 1GB ram and a 320GB drive running Leopard. iPeng supporting Transporter, Classic 3 and Boom runs just fine...

    With Leopard, I just use Screen Sharing to control the Mini as it is headless (and keyboard-less and mouse-less).

    Regards, Peter

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    cunobelinus@mac.com
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    Sorry - that should have been 1.42MHz, not 800MHz. Getting confused
    with the eMac on which I used to run it (also without problems).

    Geraint.

    On 22 Apr 2009, at 18:12, cunobelinus (AT) mac (DOT) com wrote:

    > Old Mac Minis are fine for SC, although I admit that the response to
    > iPeng is slow on mine. I run it on an early-ish one one not much
    > faster than your current G3 (the 800MHz version, to be precise),
    > under OSX 10.4.11 and it can take 10 or 15 seconds for sound to
    > reach the speakers after poking "play". Sometimes it feels as though
    > the music flows along the cables like cool lava... Otherwise there's
    > only a problem if the Mini is running something else that hogs
    > processor/storage, which wouldn't arise in your case, or else my
    > neighbour uses the microwave. No stuttering otherwise, using a
    > bridged ethernet/Airport Extreme (g) connection.
    >
    > Anyway, one of the later, faster PPC versions seems much easier than
    > re-jigging your whole set-up.....although even the cheaper of the new
    > Minis would probably work blast the bits out like a pyroclastic
    > flow.....
    >
    > Geraint.
    >
    > On 22 Apr 2009, at 16:58, JMG wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> pippin;417386 Wrote:
    >>> How about a Mac Mini?
    >>> Nettop?

    >>
    >> A Mac Mini would be fine, perhaps used. I didn't know about Nettop
    >> computers. Will check that. I guess the faster, the better...
    >>
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    From OS X to Windows

    > My old G3 (600 MHz PPC) is running out of steam and I think to buy a
    > PC
    > running Windows XP (2,5GHz Intel Core Duo 2) to replace it. I would
    > loke to buy a Mac but a PC is about third the price and I intend to
    > use
    > it only as a music server. Anyone has experience switching their
    > SqueezeCenter from OS X to Windows? My mini-LAN is OS X only (3
    > computers including the server). I知 controlling the SC server from
    > another computer via VNC - is is easy to control a Windows server from
    > a Mac? Is transition from iTunes OS X to iTunes Windows simple?
    >
    > Thanks!
    >
    > JMG


    Looks like others have responded to most of the other issues ... As
    for transitioning your iTunes library from OSX to Windows it's a
    pretty straight forward process.
    - copy the entire "iTunes" folder from Mac to Windows (most likely
    via your network, but even via a hard drive or thumb drive should work
    as long as it's formatted in FAT32 so the Mac can write to it and
    Windows can read from it).
    - once it's copied to your Windows machine, rename the "iTunes
    Library" file in your "iTunes" folder to "iTunes Library.itl" (iTunes
    on Windows needs the extension, it works with or without it on the
    Mac). The names of the other files don't matter, and the files
    themselves will be re-created if needed.
    - launch iTunes while holding down the "shift" key (the "option" key
    on the Mac) and then click the "Choose Library ..." button.
    - navigate to the location of your iTunes library, and select it for
    your default iTunes Library (you won't need to re-do this step later).
    - note: iTunes will go through a re-building step once the library is
    opened. If your library is sizable this could take a while. But once
    finished you should have all your playlists, music, etc. intact.

    Good luck,
    - duano!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMG View Post
    My old G3 (600 MHz PPC) is running out of steam and I think to buy a PC running Windows XP (2,5GHz Intel Core Duo 2) to replace it. I would loke to buy a Mac but a PC is about third the price and I intend to use it only as a music server. Anyone has experience switching their SqueezeCenter from OS X to Windows? My mini-LAN is OS X only (3 computers including the server). I知 controlling the SC server from another computer via VNC - is is easy to control a Windows server from a Mac? Is transition from iTunes OS X to iTunes Windows simple?

    Thanks!

    JMG
    Pippin is right. I just bought a Mac Mini for $349 and they are on sale at Micro Center for $399 ( I had a $50 off Apple Rebate coupon).

    Or you could buy the 1TB Vortexbox for $368 and run a Linux OS. If it were me, I would do anything not to run Windows Anything (XP or Vista).

    Or build your own and download and install Vortexbox software or Ubuntu OS. Plenty of options to stay away from XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMG View Post
    A Mac Mini would be fine, perhaps used. I didn't know about Nettop computers. Will check that. I guess the faster, the better...
    I think SC is pretty tolerant and not particularly demanding as an app. Other than your initial loadup and scanning, I don't think the processor and drive speeds really matter much (assuming your library is "normal" sized and you're not trying to run it on something with the processing power of a toaster oven, as some do). Since memory, drives, and microprocessors are so cheap, you can find a box with great capacity and performance for very little money, compared to what all of us spent on PCs not that long ago

    I have an eee box with Win XP, and an external drive, and performance is excellent. It responds to commands immediately, and that along with scanning times are much faster than with the older PC I was using previously. I have no experience with Itunes.

    I don't think you can go wrong with any of the suggestions.

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