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    Controller or not

    Hi all,
    Sorry for this stupid question, but what is the difference between using a controller and accessing the web gui using another wifi device (i.e. an iPAC, Windows Mobile, or other)?
    Will I miss out on anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sand View Post
    Hi all,
    Sorry for this stupid question, but what is the difference between using a controller and accessing the web gui using another wifi device (i.e. an iPAC, Windows Mobile, or other)?
    Will I miss out on anything?
    In my experience (Nokia 810 and other devices) speed, they simply are not quick enough to make the whole thing enjoyable.

    Now the native application on a iPhone that is different, speed and easy to use. Much prefer that to my SC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattybain View Post
    In my experience (Nokia 810 and other devices) speed, they simply are not quick enough to make the whole thing enjoyable.

    Now the native application on a iPhone that is different, speed and easy to use. Much prefer that to my SC.
    OK, so there is custom software in the controller - not just a browser?
    Is it open source?
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    Controller or not

    > OK, so there is custom software in the controller - not just a
    > browser?
    > Is it open source?


    Yes, it is. You'll find the squeezeplay repository here:
    http://svn.slimdevices.com/7.3/trunk...src/?root=Jive

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    Supercool! Thanks, Michael!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sand View Post
    what is the difference between using a controller and accessing the web gui using another wifi device (i.e. an iPAC, Windows Mobile, or other)?
    Will I miss out on anything?
    I asked a similar question not very long ago: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52909

    Now that I have a controller, I must say, those who responded were right. It is so much faster and just a more polished experience. And did I say so much faster? I'm very glad I got one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeSue View Post
    I asked a similar question not very long ago: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52909

    Now that I have a controller, I must say, those who responded were right. It is so much faster and just a more polished experience. And did I say so much faster? I'm very glad I got one.
    Thanks. I think the controller's screen is too small. Also (I think) it's not touch sensitive. I'll think about it some more..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    > OK, so there is custom software in the controller - not just a
    > browser?
    > Is it open source?


    Yes, it is. You'll find the squeezeplay repository here:
    http://svn.slimdevices.com/7.3/trunk...src/?root=Jive

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    Beyond the fact that they let you look at it, the license seems pretty strict to me: http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/jiv...zeplay/LICENSE
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    There's a diagram on this page which explains which parts are truly open vs readable: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...OSArchitecture

    It's not as open as many would like, but it's not as closed as the player firmware (which is a good thing IMHO).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk View Post
    Beyond the fact that they let you look at it, the license seems pretty strict to me: http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/jiv...zeplay/LICENSE
    Basically you can do any modifications you like for your personal use but you can't redistribute them beside sending them privately to Logitech for inclusion in a future release.

    The main limitation with this in my opinion is:
    - You can't port SqueezePlay to third party hardware and redistribute it without permissions from Logitech. This kind of make sense since Logitech really only earn money on the hardware, so it isn't strange that they like to avoid competitors making money on their free software.

    The other limitations are more theoretical, sure it doesn't allow you to make and redistribute your own version of SqueezePlay but the number of persons willing to do that and spend time maintaining their own version are probably pretty close to zero anyway.

    When you think about it, the licensing is pretty logical. Most parts of SqueezeCenter is GPL but it can't be used with third party hardware players anyway so there is no reason to restricting the license. SqueezePlay would be possible to use with third party hardware similar to Controller, so restricting the license makes sense from a business point of view.
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