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    Date Added?

    Would it be possible (or is it already) to look at files by the date they were added? I realise "new music" ordinarily indicates the most recent additions but Im busy coping lots of files over from my terastation to the slimserver running on my windows home server box so in fact "new music" usually means - "most recently copied over" rather than "most recently ripped". Its a feature Ive seen on some upnp servers but I can see if it exists on Slimserver



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    That's basically the same thing. The date they were added to your WHS is the date they were copied which is also the date on which they were created.

    What I can't remember is whether the date last accessed changes in a copy.

    You could do with a program that copies files and then sets the create date to the same as previously.

    However, I'd guess this puts the files in a different location as far as the Slimserver is concerned so they would appear as new music to the database since it doesn't know that they are the same music files. I believe the newly added music is from when they are added to the database rather than their file dates. Those, I think, are only used to determine if a known file has changed.

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    Thanks for that

    I think you are probably right and i guess slim can't know date ripped - or can it - is this a standard tag? It'd be useful for getting at recently acquire tracks as opposed to those that happen to have been added most recently.

    graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandt View Post
    I think you are probably right and i guess slim can't know date ripped - or can it - is this a standard tag? It'd be useful for getting at recently acquire tracks as opposed to those that happen to have been added most recently.
    SlimServer uses the date that a file was last modified for sorting New Music. Normally, when you move files or copy them from place to place they maintain the last modified date. When you rip a CD and encode the file, you're creating it new and the last modified date should be when you ripped it.

    If at a later date you tag the file using some tagging software, the last modified timestamp will generally be updated. Some taggers let you maintain the old timestamp so that when you fix or add new tags to existing files you can keep them from bubbling to the top of New Music.

    You can also get creative if you have software to modify the last modified date and times, and set them to whatever you like.

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    I see

    I imagined that maybe some ripping tools automatically wrote a tag that meant "date ripped" and then wondered if that could be accessed by slimerver or any of its plug ins. FWiW mine are pretty much all ripped by Jriver Media Centre which does have "date imported" as a library tag but i dont know if thats a "standard" tag for the likes of slimserver to read...


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    Wouldn't it be more correct to use the created timestamp to select "new music"?

    I find it kind of irritating that the "new music" list is full of music that I recently retagged, but that has been in my library for ages.

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    Small change is all that is needed

    Quote Originally Posted by verdemar View Post
    Wouldn't it be more correct to use the created timestamp to select "new music"?

    I find it kind of irritating that the "new music" list is full of music that I recently retagged, but that has been in my library for ages.
    Verdemar,

    I had the same issue, but read a couple of posts in the past that tell you to change a setting in your tagging software to not change the file date when updating tags. It seems as most tagging software has that option. MP3Tag definitely does and made all the difference for me.

    HTH,

    SS

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    verdemar wrote:
    > Wouldn't it be more correct to use the created timestamp to select "new
    > music"?
    >
    > I find it kind of irritating that the "new music" list is full of music
    > that I recently retagged, but that has been in my library for ages.


    So, don't modify the timestamp when you update the tags.

    R.


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    Yes, the problem is that my tagging software won't allow it (and they will not implement it as it is incorrect behaviour). Which is true, I guess. I'm using MusicBrainz Picard.

    I found a bug for this issue, so please vote for it if you have the same problem.

    Edit: the bug here:
    http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1330
    Last edited by verdemar; 2008-02-25 at 06:12. Reason: Forgot to include link

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    Date Added?

    verdemar wrote:
    > Yes, the problem is that my tagging software won't allow it (and they
    > will not implement it as it is incorrect behaviour). Which is true, I
    > guess. I'm using MusicBrainz Picard.


    It's not incorrect behaviour. It's not correct behaviour either. It is
    down to the user to choose. Some people might want to leave the
    timestamp, others may not.

    I suggest that MusicBrainz are being rather dogmatic in insisting that
    you can't have the choice.

    R.


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