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    VPC great for Testing!

    Microsoft Virtual PC is free and allows you to run multiple concurrent virtual PC's within a single actual PC. I've found this to be really helpful when "messing around" with new configurations, plugin's, versions etc. Heck, you can even run other O/S and don't have to deal with multiple boot drives or messy emulators.

    This is probably not news to many of you, but it has made a difference in how aggressivley I am willing to try out new and different things.

    I simply keep a template copy of a stable starting build (the entire virtual PC mind you) and if things get too hairy, I delete the PC I'm working with and start over with a fresh one.

    Is anyone else using this technology?
    Touch --> Audio-gd NFB-10SE DAC --> Portal Paladin monoblocks --> Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MKII
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    VPC great for Testing!

    ob_kook wrote:
    > Microsoft Virtual PC is free and allows you to run multiple concurrent
    > virtual PC's within a single actual PC. I've found this to be really
    > helpful when "messing around" with new configurations, plugin's,
    > versions etc. Heck, you can even run other O/S and don't have to deal
    > with multiple boot drives or messy emulators.
    >


    Can you run Linux VM's on it?

    > This is probably not news to many of you, but it has made a difference
    > in how aggressivley I am willing to try out new and different things.
    >
    > I simply keep a template copy of a stable starting build (the entire
    > virtual PC mind you) and if things get too hairy, I delete the PC I'm
    > working with and start over with a fresh one.
    >
    > Is anyone else using this technology?
    >


    Sure, I use VMWare workstation (not free) and Xen (free on Linux). It's
    great stuff, but Microsoft is a little late to the party. I also worry
    if they haven't put in any incentives against running a non-Windows OS.

    Regards,
    Peter


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    Senior Member ob_kook's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Can you run Linux VM's on it?

    ...

    Sure, I use VMWare workstation (not free) and Xen (free on Linux). It's
    great stuff, but Microsoft is a little late to the party. I also worry
    if they haven't put in any incentives against running a non-Windows OS.

    Regards,
    Peter
    Yes, you can run Linux on it.

    I am in the industry and very familiar with VMware. Actually their workstation used to be called "GSX" and was free a couple years back (sounds like you probably know that).

    XEN is pretty good and is the basis for several permutations out there (Xensource who was acquired recently by Citrix, Virtual Iron, etc).

    I think Virtual Iron is still free and although is missing a couple of enterprise features, it is pretty good.

    Yes, MS is late to the party, but the recent effort (VPC 2007) has surprised me in how good it is.

    edit: I may be wrong about the product evolution of VMware. They did have a free product called GSX, but I am not sure Workstation replaced it...
    Last edited by ob_kook; 2007-12-08 at 21:18. Reason: correction
    Touch --> Audio-gd NFB-10SE DAC --> Portal Paladin monoblocks --> Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MKII
    SB2 --> Denon AVR4800 --> Klipsch KG4
    SqueezeBox Boom (Bedroom)
    SqueezeBox Radio w/Battery (Kitchen / Garage / bathroom)
    Synology DS413 running standard LMS package
    Duet currently in storage

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    VPC great for Testing!

    > I am in the industry and very familiar with VMware. Actually their
    > workstation used to be called "GSX" and was free a couple years back
    > (sounds like you probably know that).


    Workstation has always been the workstation product, but never free. The
    GSX successor is called simply VMware Server and is free. Though it
    doesn't offer all the bells and whistles of the workstation product like
    multiple snapshots, integration with the desktop (d'n'd between host and
    VM) etc.

    I wouldn't want to work without it. Regularly testing the UI on
    7+ browser/OS combos would be a nightmare...

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    I also worry if they haven't put in any incentives against running a non-Windows OS.
    In a way, they have--the host OS must be Windows. I'd certainly consider using their product if it weren't for that pretty serious limitation.

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    Vmware Player

    I use Vmware Player which is free, and create the virtual machines on EasyVMX http://www.easyvmx.com/

    I use it for a number of linux and WinXP test setups.

    I did try VPC 2007 but did not like it as much as Vmware player - so stopped using it
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    I haven't run the full vpc 2007 but the beta had one v. serious flaw.

    No USB support.

    Dont know if they changed that in the release version.

    I am a happy vmware user so i wasn't bothered.
    Benway

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    VPC great for Testing!

    Ramage wrote:
    > I use Vmware Player which is free, and create the virtual machines on
    > EasyVMX http://www.easyvmx.com/
    >


    Cool work around!

    Regards,
    Peter


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    Nobody using http://www.virtualbox.org out there ?
    It's always better when it's free (GPL) ...

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