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    Custom NAS with DVD/CD support

    An idea which formulated over this weekend... are there any NAS solutions which could also support a CD / DVD drive? The ideas would be to have something which sort of replicates the use of a PC in the 'recording to FLAC' stage...

    E.g. Insert a CD into a slimline drive; and have it auto ripped to flac and stored on the NAS in your music collection?

    I've also read somewhere that CD->FLAC->SB-Amp can give better playback opportunities than mid range CD->Amp? Is this still the case?

    Thoughts?

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    Never seen an off the shelf NAS unit that could also rip audio CDs. If you built your own NAS using a linux distro (of which there are a few specifically for this) you could add CD ripping capabilities quite easily, and probably automate it all too.

    It is definitely feasable that a CD ripped to flac *correctly* would be better than played on a regular CD player. BEaring in mind that if you use a ripping app that doesn't care about the quality of the rip (iTunes and WMP from what i can tell) then it's possible you are loosing something there. Using EAC in secure mode should give you a bit perfect digital copy. There has been much discussion on this subject in the Audiophiles forum. Many compair the digital out of the SB3 to CD players (also known as transports)costing up to 10x as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roamingstudio View Post
    An idea which formulated over this weekend... are there any NAS solutions which could also support a CD / DVD drive?
    I think when you add an optical drive you've more or less crossed the (admittedly fuzzy) line from NAS to PC. I've never seen something billed as a NAS that has a CD drive, but there are lots of small form factor PCs, including several quiet/silent low-power units. Run it 'headless' (no keyboard, mouse, or monitor) and it sounds like what you describe. As funkstar says, you could automate a lot of it, and you could get in via ssh for any manual tinkering.

    The Olive (www.olive.us) units also meet your description, although they also have the audio components and controller in the same box (like combining the NAS, CD, and SqueezeBox). You certainly could do the NAS+CD as a fun project for a lot less than the cost of an Olive, and it wouldn't be proprietary!

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    Thinking about this some more, you could potentially get a TS-101 to do all this. Sources are available, and we know they are pretty capably little boxes, so in theory it's just a case of adding the required software. I don't know what kind of load grep or cdparanoia produces or how much memory they would need, but they cant be anywhere near what SS requires.

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    Your on my wavelength Funkstar..

    Imagine a little system which does all the 'data acquiring' process ; stores to your SS library without you needing to boot a PC. Ok the Mini-itx solution would also provide UPnP video support as well - but there are some USB video ports. Chuck the internals in another silent housing and thats one mighty powerful little beast. Although the TS201 could also be housed in one of these...
    http://www.atechfabrication.com/HTPC_cases.htm

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    yeah good ideas.

    Nice cases. Some very nice accessories to go along with them. However have you seen their shipping charges?! O_o

    $41 for an 8-port SATA bracket (8 ports on a PCI backing plate). Add a case in there and it goes up to $111.54! sheesh

    I'm sure you could find omething similar in the UK anyway. Take a look at http://www.linitx.com and http://www.mini-itx.com for Epia products and accessories.

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    Seems like someone beat me to it.
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    http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10..._music_system/

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    If you want a small unit then I would have a look at Serener GS-L01 (http://www.serener.com), available through Logic Supply (http://www.logicsupply.com/) if you are US based. Unfortunately it only fits a 2.5" HD which means you will be quite limited in disk space. I am personally looking at their CD-less version with a 500GB HD running Ubuntu, perhaps off an IDE flash disk. Hush Technologies (http://www.hushtechnologies.com) are also a candidate I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roamingstudio View Post
    I've also read somewhere that CD->FLAC->SB-Amp can give better playback opportunities than mid range CD->Amp? Is this still the case?
    Thoughts?
    I have done direct comparisons using the Leftfield / Leftism album played from my Denon DCD 2560, through Benchmark DAC-1.
    When doing the same music ripped through EAC to flac and played back through SB3 via Optical digital cable to Benchmark DAC-1. The music was unmistakably better, warmer and nicer to listen to..... More musical pleasure.

    This is clearly audible to me.

    Some of the physics behind this is simple, even the cheapest hard-drive on the market has a precision that tops even the best high-end CD players, the computer doesn't tolerate a single bit failure, which is the precision level you get from the hard drive.

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