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    Senior Member ceejay's Avatar
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    Licensing scheme for digital DJs in UK

    This was news to me... I gather that there are several people around here who use slimserver to support DJ activities - well, if you're in the UK, looks like someone wants some money from you!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4609378.stm

    Is this happening anywhere else?

    Is this a harbinger of things to come for the rest of us digital music users?

    Discuss.

    Ceejay

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    Senior Member pfarrell's Avatar
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    Licensing scheme for digital DJs in UK

    ceejay wrote:
    > This was news to me... I gather that there are several people around
    > here who use slimserver to support DJ activities - well, if you're in
    > the UK, looks like someone wants some money from you!
    > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4609378.stm
    > Is this happening anywhere else?


    IANAL, but in the US, you can not play music in public without
    cutting ASCAP and BMI their fees. All of the bars
    and clubs pay, based I think on the number of tables.

    Not at all clear that the authors and artists get all that
    much from the fees, but that is a separate issue.

    Paying your $10 for a CD does not give you the legal rights
    to play it for others for a fee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell
    IANAL, but in the US, you can not play music in public without
    cutting ASCAP and BMI their fees. All of the bars
    and clubs pay, based I think on the number of tables.
    Yeah, but this doesn't sound like that. It sounds like an additonal fee based on it being 'digital media'....

    Which is dumb.

    Why does playing from a CD not have the new license fee, but playing from an MP3 does... what if it's a CD of MP3s? Or a burned CD audio that was once mp3's but now a plain audio "dj mix" disc.... The lines get all fuzzy and weird from what the BBC has on it.

    Public Performance fees I can understand.... but not based on medium.

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    (the part of the story that makes me think it's the medium is that they specifically say that downloaded tracks are for 'personal use' and don't have public performance permission... neither do purchased CDs or even vinyl... so that's a red herring.)

    "You don't actually have to DJ using a laptop. You can use vinyl, you can use CD, so we're saying that if it's not worth your while spending ú200 then don't do it."
    Which makes it sound like you're fine and dandy as long as you don't use a computer... And there are a couple other quotes like that... so it is a license based on the media type.

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    I seem to recall there is a different category for hard disk based music. I think the logic is that the owner of a stable of DJs could just buy one copy for the whole group of them. It's more complex, though, because DJs go to gigs with duplicate equipment, so 2 copies on 2 hard disks only = 1 gig. When I last (tried to) read through it, my eyes crossed :-)

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