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    Netgear 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch

    This looks cool...

    http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

    I'm currently using Netgear's 11 Mbps Wall-Plugged device, the XE-102, which features 1 ethernet jack.

    Their new one, the XE-104, has a throughput of 85 Mbps and features 4 ethernet jacks (and it's the same price I paid for the XE-102 a year ago).

    This technology is extremely simple and reliable (just plug them in and you're done). The only problems I ever had was once after a power outage they lost contact - unplugging and replugging them fixed it.

    This looks like a great alternative if Wi-Fi coverage is weak and running Cat-5 cable isn't an option. Another cool thing is, it will work anywhere on your property, so if you have a barn or outbuilding far away from the house, this is the answer.

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    Dan Goodinson
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    Netgear 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch

    Additionally (and slightly off-topic, for which I apologise), it seems
    that Netgear are soon to release s "MIMO" cable broadband router. They
    already have an ADSL "MIMO" broadband router on offer, but I'm on cable
    (NTL) so must wait for a while.

    Apparently MIMO is far more stable than current wi-fi and is far less
    prone to interference. It operates on 3 channels so if any one channel
    gets knocked out by a blip from someone's old cordless phone, the other
    2 channels can pick up the slack. Further benefit of 3 distinct
    transmissions is that the throughput is increased by 3 times, too.
    Theoretical maximum of current MIMO devices is 200mbps. The theoretical
    maximum of the upcoming Netgear release is going to be 240Mbps. I'd
    expect this to translate to a working speed of anything between 50 and
    80Mbps. Well worth waiting for :-) :-) :-) (Especially considering
    that currently the 108+ devices only work out at something like
    20-25Mbps at close range - this can drop to as low as 4 or 5Mbps at a
    distance (especially when you're transmitting through walls/furniture
    etc).

    The expected working speed of the wall-plugged devices is around 40 -
    45Mbps, by the way.

    Back on topic - great news about the Netgear 85Mbps wall-plugged
    devices. I may indeed have to get a couple of those in the meantime :-)
    :-) Cheers for the link also :-) :-)


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    This looks cool...

    http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

    I'm currently using Netgear's 11 Mbps Wall-Plugged device, the XE-102,
    which features 1 ethernet jack.

    Their new one, the XE-104, has a throughput of 85 Mbps and features 4
    ethernet jacks (and it's the same price I paid for the XE-102 a year
    ago).

    This technology is extremely simple and reliable (just plug them in and
    you're done). The only problems I ever had was once after a power
    outage they lost contact - unplugging and replugging them fixed it.

    This looks like a great alternative if Wi-Fi coverage is weak and
    running Cat-5 cable isn't an option. Another cool thing is, it will
    work anywhere on your property, so if you have a barn or outbuilding far
    away from the house, this is the answer.


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  3. #3
    Dan Goodinson
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    Netgear 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch

    PBE,

    Have you found anywhere that sells this yet? I did a search yesterday
    evening, but couldn't find anyone selling it :-( If you have found a
    distributor, can you post back with details? I'm UK based...

    Cheers!
    Dan.

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    This looks cool...

    http://www.netgear.com/products/details/XE104.php

    I'm currently using Netgear's 11 Mbps Wall-Plugged device, the XE-102,
    which features 1 ethernet jack.

    Their new one, the XE-104, has a throughput of 85 Mbps and features 4
    ethernet jacks (and it's the same price I paid for the XE-102 a year
    ago).

    This technology is extremely simple and reliable (just plug them in and
    you're done). The only problems I ever had was once after a power
    outage they lost contact - unplugging and replugging them fixed it.

    This looks like a great alternative if Wi-Fi coverage is weak and
    running Cat-5 cable isn't an option. Another cool thing is, it will
    work anywhere on your property, so if you have a barn or outbuilding far
    away from the house, this is the answer.


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    Devolo make equivalent - I have the lower speed one. Dabs sells both

    http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx...avigationKey=0

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    Dan Goodinson
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    Re: Netgear 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch

    Thanks bpa.

    I knew that there were other 85mbps devices, but was very keen on the
    Netgear one. Though having just spoken to Netgear (UK) they tell me
    it's not available here yet, and not to expect it before end of January


    Dammit By that time I'm kind of hoping that the Netgear MIMO cable
    router will be available - I wanted to get the wall-plugged switch to
    tide me over till the MIMO kit became available.

    Sigh.

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    Devolo make equivalent - I have the lower speed one. Dabs sells both

    http://tinyurl.com/a3qf3


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Goodinson
    Additionally (and slightly off-topic, for which I apologise), it seems
    that Netgear are soon to release s "MIMO" cable broadband router. They
    already have an ADSL "MIMO" broadband router on offer, but I'm on cable
    (NTL) so must wait for a while.
    This device from Belkin (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=178491) would appear to work on Cable. I am on NTL as well and am also keen for a higher throughput network.

    My understanding is that with a MIMO network b and g devices can connect with no loss of speed for the other devices connecting at higher speeds. Is this correct as this would be critical to it being useful for me.

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    Dan Goodinson
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    Re: Netgear 85 Mbps Wall-Plugged Ethernet Switch

    Yes, that's my understanding too. In fact, the various literature I've
    read on MIMO would seem to suggest that existing b/g devices would even
    experience an _increase_ in performance with a MIMO router. If I've got
    it right, it'd seem that the increased signal strength and range of the
    MIMO router is kind of like "moving the b/g device nearer to the router"
    (even though the devices remain in the same location), hence the
    increase in performance.

    I've been doing some digging on this, and I never realised until
    recently just how much the performance of b/g devices drops even over
    short distances. It seems that the performance drop is almost
    exponential as distance between b/g NIC and b/g router/access point
    increases (!)

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    This device from Belkin
    (http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=178491)
    would appear to work on Cable. I am on NTL as well and am also keen for
    a higher throughput network.

    My understanding is that with a MIMO network b and g devices can connect
    with no loss of speed for the other devices connecting at higher speeds.
    Is this correct as this would be critical to it being useful for me.


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    I've had a lot of success with these;

    http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-pl-85pe.htm

    I started off helping my next door neighbour get wireless working in his house. Unfortunately it's a 200 year old building with internal walls that are 2 feet thick in places, needless to say wireless wasn't the way to go.

    These things literally plug in and work and have been 100% reliable.

    There's also a slower version (14Mbps) for those that want to spend less...

    Andy.

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