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    Senior Member Philip Meyer's Avatar
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    Re: New Slimserver Features?

    >Zapping a song also removes it from the current playlist. This probably
    >isn't what you want. I've never seen the point of zapping. Can anyone
    >explain the rationale behind it?
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    I use Zap when I stumble across a song that doesn't play correctly - eg. if a song skips due to a bad rip from a CD, or if the tags aren't correct. As I mainly listen to music using the SB from the bedroom at night, by the time I get up in the morning, I've forgotten what music I was going to sort out!

    I could never decide if I liked the functionality that it removes the track from the music library. Sometimes I wanted to use it to remind me to look into something, but the track would still play okay, and thus I wouldn't want to zap it until it had finished playing.

    How about the following, as an enhancement request, to enhance the functionality of the add button, so it's not just for zapping songs.

    Press-and-hold add button on a track selected in the now playing list. SB then asks what you want to do - top line of the display would read "Add to...", the second line would allow you to select a destination. The default destination would be "Zapped tracks" which would work as per current functionality. Other options could include other configurable markers, such as "Bad Tags", "Bad music", which would be implemented as playlists like the Zapped music playlist. In fact, it could also be used to add the track to an existing playlist or a new Playlist.

    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Meyer
    >Zapping a song also removes it from the current playlist. This probably
    >isn't what you want. I've never seen the point of zapping. Can anyone
    >explain the rationale behind it?
    >

    I use Zap when I stumble across a song that doesn't play correctly - eg. if a song skips due to a bad rip from a CD, or if the tags aren't correct. As I mainly listen to music using the SB from the bedroom at night, by the time I get up in the morning, I've forgotten what music I was going to sort out!

    I could never decide if I liked the functionality that it removes the track from the music library. Sometimes I wanted to use it to remind me to look into something, but the track would still play okay, and thus I wouldn't want to zap it until it had finished playing.

    How about the following, as an enhancement request, to enhance the functionality of the add button, so it's not just for zapping songs.

    Press-and-hold add button on a track selected in the now playing list. SB then asks what you want to do - top line of the display would read "Add to...", the second line would allow you to select a destination. The default destination would be "Zapped tracks" which would work as per current functionality. Other options could include other configurable markers, such as "Bad Tags", "Bad music", which would be implemented as playlists like the Zapped music playlist. In fact, it could also be used to add the track to an existing playlist or a new Playlist.

    Phil
    Phil

    That is a great idea. You need to add it as an enhancement request. Go here: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/enter_bu...uct=SlimServer

    and change the severity flag to 'enhancement'

    dfk

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    I havn't tried this for a while.

    When you Zapp is the song removed from your main library and then moved to the Zapped playlist? If so, that's not what I'm after. I want to be able to "flag" a song so that I can later use it to build, or add to, a playlist. That could mean someting as simple as a "check mark" beside the title in my library or an actual duplicate stored somewhere where I can manipulate it later. I definitely don't want it removed from the CD in my library where it origonally came from.
    Gerry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Meyer
    >
    How about the following, as an enhancement request, to enhance the functionality of the add button, so it's not just for zapping songs.

    Press-and-hold add button on a track selected in the now playing list. SB then asks what you want to do - top line of the display would read "Add to...", the second line would allow you to select a destination. The default destination would be "Zapped tracks" which would work as per current functionality. Other options could include other configurable markers, such as "Bad Tags", "Bad music", which would be implemented as playlists like the Zapped music playlist. In fact, it could also be used to add the track to an existing playlist or a new Playlist.

    Phil
    Sounds like a great idea for a plugin to me. Anyone fancy having a go at it?

    I'm confused about the statement that "zap" removes the song from the library, though. I tried it a moment ago and what seemed to happen was that the song currently playing was removed from the current playlist and added to the "zapped songs" playlist, which seems ok to me (not as rich as the functionality described above, but ok). But still there in the library - if I play that album again, I get all of it. This is also consistent with the wiki documentation - "If you press and hold the ADD button, the displayed song will be removed from the playlist and added to a special Saved Playlist called "Zapped Songs" for you to review later."

    In this case the "zap" function is nearly what you want - the only snag being that it stops the track playing, which may not be what you want. If you were confident with your timing you could wait until the end of the track before zapping it!!

    Ceejay

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    Re: New Slimserver Features?

    On 14-Nov-05, at 11:47 PM, ceejay wrote:

    >>

    >
    > Sounds like a great idea for a plugin to me. Anyone fancy having a go
    > at it?
    >

    The zap function was initially a plugin (not for very long tho) as was
    the press-and-hold to save playlist.

    > I'm confused about the statement that "zap" removes the song from the
    > library, though. I tried it a moment ago and what seemed to happen was
    > that the song currently playing was removed from the current playlist


    that is correct. it is moved from current playlist to "zapped.m3u".
    It is still in the library and the file is untouched.
    the playlist can be browsed at a later time and used for anything you
    wish.



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    Re: New Slimserver Features?

    >> I'm confused about the statement that "zap" removes the song from the
    >> library, though. I tried it a moment ago and what seemed to happen was
    >> that the song currently playing was removed from the current playlist

    >
    >that is correct. it is moved from current playlist to "zapped.m3u".
    >It is still in the library and the file is untouched.
    >the playlist can be browsed at a later time and used for anything you
    >wish.
    >

    If I play a saved playlist and then zap a track, it adds it to the zapped.m3u, and removes the track from the currently playlist and the song is not displayed in the saved playlist any more either. The track is still visible in the music library though.

    I didn't notice the inconsistency before - I assumed as the track is removed from the original playlist, it would also have gone from the music library.

    Phil

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    Re: New Slimserver Features?

    >Sounds like a great idea for a plugin to me. Anyone fancy having a go
    >at it?


    Actually, I've been thinking about having a go as this does sound fairly trivial, but I've no experience of writing a plugin, and limited experience of perl, so it might take some time!

    I raised an enhancement request yesterday, and it's been assigned to 6.5 - does this mean slimdevices staff have already agreed to implement it as core functionality, or should I still think about starting the plugin development?

    Phil

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    Re: New Slimserver Features?

    Philip Meyer wrote:
    >> Sounds like a great idea for a plugin to me. Anyone fancy having a go
    >> at it?
    >>

    >
    > Actually, I've been thinking about having a go as this does sound fairly trivial, but I've no experience of writing a plugin, and limited experience of perl, so it might take some time!
    >
    > I raised an enhancement request yesterday, and it's been assigned to 6.5 - does this mean slimdevices staff have already agreed to implement it as core functionality, or should I still think about starting the plugin development?
    >

    absolutely. targets are not fixed in stone. many bug/rfe's that
    involve architecture are being marked for 6.5, meaning anything from
    "must look into who this could work" to "just about there already so
    lets flag this to check before release". Either way, a plugin would be
    most welcome. Any plugin can be merged into core code later, or simply
    included with the distro after the kinks get worked out.

    -k


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    Re: New Slimserver Features?

    Philip Meyer wrote:
    >> Sounds like a great idea for a plugin to me. Anyone fancy having a go
    >> at it?
    >>

    >
    > Actually, I've been thinking about having a go as this does sound fairly trivial, but I've no experience of writing a plugin, and limited experience of perl, so it might take some time!
    >
    > I raised an enhancement request yesterday, and it's been assigned to 6.5 - does this mean slimdevices staff have already agreed to implement it as core functionality, or should I still think about starting the plugin development?
    >


    yes, please do. The plugin can always be merged in later or included
    with the standard distro when you have it working. Targets are never
    fixed in stone, so it simply means that the current plan is to give it a
    look as part of the 6.5 process and may not end up with any committment
    to implement it if other things get in the way. Having a plugin
    available is a much more concrete solution.

    -kdf

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