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    Edirol MA10As and small active speakers in general (yes, again!)

    I'm really sorry to do this, but I've spent ages trawling through the previous posts on this subject, and still haven't come up with a solution. I promise to start a wiki on this if I get some useful feedback. Is that a sufficient punishment for raising this issue *again*?

    I want to plug my eagerly awaited sb3 into some active speakers and sit it on top of a wardrobe in my bedroom. I'm currently looking at a pair of Edirol MA10As which I've found for ú80 online. Could anyone with experience of these speakers tell me what they think of them? Are there any other similarly priced speakers that I should get instead? My ideal would be some tiny, great-sounding speakers that I can take on holiday with me and plug a Karma into. However, they'll be spending most of their time in one place, so portability is a secondary concern over sound quality. At this price range, I trust the sb's dac over anything built into speakers, so analog only speakers is fine. I don't want a separate amp, so it's active speakers only.

    Thanks, and apologies again!

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    The MA10 range of speakers have just been discontinued and replaced by the MA15D's

    The MA10's are excellent speakers, ú80 seems quite expensive for the analogue version of the speakers though.

    If you can stretch further, the MA15D's are definitely better, they have a nicer finish, are better built (better switches) and have more bass (they have an amp in each speaker). They are quite heavy though.

    Alternatively, the MA20's have also been discontinued so you could keep an eye out for a set.

    At the price range, the Edirol's are better than most speakers and for their size they kick out a lot of bass.

    I hope this helps a bit, if you have any questions, just let me know, I have both the MA10D's and MA15D's for when I demo squeezebox's so can attempt to answer aany questions.

    Andrew

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    One concern I have about the Edirols is that I've heard they might kick out rather too much bass. I'm after a nice rounded sound, not something that's stupidly bottom heavy (especially in a bedroom and on top of a wardrobe!). Are the MA15Ds better using just analog? Have you seen the MA10As at under ú80? I haven't found them any cheaper yet.

    Thanks,

    Max

    Quote Originally Posted by audiofi
    The MA10 range of speakers have just been discontinued and replaced by the MA15D's

    The MA10's are excellent speakers, ú80 seems quite expensive for the analogue version of the speakers though.

    If you can stretch further, the MA15D's are definitely better, they have a nicer finish, are better built (better switches) and have more bass (they have an amp in each speaker). They are quite heavy though.

    Alternatively, the MA20's have also been discontinued so you could keep an eye out for a set.

    At the price range, the Edirol's are better than most speakers and for their size they kick out a lot of bass.

    I hope this helps a bit, if you have any questions, just let me know, I have both the MA10D's and MA15D's for when I demo squeezebox's so can attempt to answer aany questions.

    Andrew
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    They are quite bassy speakers, but I'm not sure if I would class it as bass heavy as they are designed for studio use. I think it is just on bassy tracks they reveal the bass because they are so neutral. They do have tone controls if its a problem though.

    I would say the MA15's are better on both digital and analogue input, they have more powerful amplifiers and sound more natural.

    I haven't seen the MA10A's any cheaper either, I think they are quite hard to come by now because they aren't manufactured any more so its just a case of who hs them in stock.

    The Acoustic Energy AEGO 2 sub/sat package was also excellent, but that has also been discontinued and I have been unable to find them anywhere unfortunately.

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    I just bought a pair of the Swan M200 active speakers (http://www.theaudioinsider.com/cgi-b...er/SWM200.html) and they're great. Excellent reviews if you google for them and currently discounted (EOL I think). Nice real wood cabinets, very high build quality (easily as good as my $2000 Polks), bass isn't thumping (need a sub for that) but excellent for bookshelves. One warning - they're not small or light.

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    I have heard good things about the Swans, but unfortunately, they aren't available over here at the moment and would cost a lot to import.

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    I have the Edirol MA15Ds purchased specially for the SB2. My findings regarding them are as follows;

    Pros: Nice Appearance, Small, Heavy.
    Cons: No auto power on/off, Annoying switch-off click, No off position for the built-in bass circuitry.

    Soundwise I'm still undecided after two months listening to them. I always get the feeling the mids are too recessed/low.

    Concerning the Bass; when the switch is set to positions 2 or 3 there's definately too much bass kicked out, and as there is no off position the bass psycho-acoustic malarkey circuitry is always in use. I would love to find out how they'd sound without this in-circuit.

    BTW I'm using them with a collection of 20% mp3, 10% ogg and 70% FLAC music files (8300 tracks in total).

    I also did a comparison between using the in-built DAC and the one inside the SB2 and I found the in-built DAC to give the sound more clarity (this was also borne out by one other person who listened blindly). And yet I still get the feeling somethings not right with the overall sound, and the mids appear to be reason.

    Also contrary to what somebody's previously said, there is only one speaker that has the amplifier/DAC inside, the other is just a passive one.

    Recently I've been browsing around for something that could be better and somebody on these forums mentioned the Taskam VL-X5s. Though they are more expensive, and they have no DAC, I'm starting to wonder whether these would have been a better choice. Who knows, in the pursuit of the best sound, maybe the Edirol's will end up on eBay...

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    Yep, you're right, sorry, it was the MA20's with two amps!

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    Hmm, the Edirol's are maybe starting to sound less like my cup of tea. That said, I don't believe the 10s have the bass circuitry. Any other suggestions that could be got in the UK for up to ú100? I really don't want to spend any more than this as I could come in for sarcasm. ;-)

    Max

    Quote Originally Posted by CavesOfTQLT
    I have the Edirol MA15Ds purchased specially for the
    SB2. My findings regarding them are as follows;

    Pros: Nice Appearance, Small, Heavy.
    Cons: No auto power on/off, Annoying switch-off click, No off position for the built-in bass circuitry.

    Soundwise I'm still undecided after two months listening to them. I always get the feeling the mids are too recessed/low.

    Concerning the Bass; when the switch is set to positions 2 or 3 there's definately too much bass kicked out, and as there is no off position the bass psycho-acoustic malarkey circuitry is always in use. I would love to find out how they'd sound without this in-circuit.

    BTW I'm using them with a collection of 20% mp3, 10% ogg and 70% FLAC music files (8300 tracks in total).

    I also did a comparison between using the in-built DAC and the one inside the SB2 and I found the in-built DAC to give the sound more clarity (this was also borne out by one other person who listened blindly). And yet I still get the feeling somethings not right with the overall sound, and the mids appear to be reason.

    Also contrary to what somebody's previously said, there is only one speaker that has the amplifier/DAC inside, the other is just a passive one.

    Recently I've been browsing around for something that could be better and somebody on these forums mentioned the Taskam VL-X5s. Though they are more expensive, and they have no DAC, I'm starting to wonder whether these would have been a better choice. Who knows, in the pursuit of the best sound, maybe the Edirol's will end up on eBay...
    Some people think the title of this song is irrelevant,
    but it's not irrelevant - it's a hippopotamus.

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    The 10's don't have the bass circuitry in and are quite a bit less bassy.

    You could try and find some Wharfedale Active Diamonds on ebay or check out the speakers from Behringer nd M-Audio

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