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    web ui = poop

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    not just the slimdevices one but all web ui s in general...

    they're ugly, slow to respond (if you're unfortunate enough to use ie you get all kinds of horrible clicks etc) and on the whole unpleasant to use...

    couldn't we have a nice proper server side application display all the information to interface with the client?????

    please!

    maybe a funky pocket pc / palm version too

    have you seen the Sonos player? i want something to counter-act their remote.... else i miught just have to trade up when they sort out their digital output / DAC

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    Jacob Potter
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    web ui = poop

    On 10/9/05, gb115b <gb115b.1wmz70 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
    > not just the slimdevices one but all web ui s in general...
    >
    > they're ugly, slow to respond (if you're unfortunate enough to use ie
    > you get all kinds of horrible clicks etc) and on the whole unpleasant
    > to use...


    Hey, I kinda agree. So I did something about it

    Have you tried ExBrowse2/ExBrowse3? (-2 in 6.1, -3 in the 6.2 beta)

    - Jacob

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    web ui = poop

    > *WARNING THIS POST CONTAINS SOMEONE'S OPINION - YOU CANNOT CHANGE THIS
    > PERSON'S OPINION - HE IS ALLOWED HIS OWN OPINION - DO NOT BERATE HIM
    > FOR THIS*


    But you might have missed one important point: as bad and ugly and slow
    and... they are, they are multi platform.

    > maybe a funky pocket pc / palm version too


    Make a PocketPC version - Palm users will cry. PC users will cry. Mac
    users... I hope you get the point.

    BTW: there's a third party application for Pocket PC which does exactly
    what you want. It costs a few bucks but might give you a faster ui:
    http://www.slimdevices.com/dev_telcanto.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by gb115b
    if you're unfortunate enough to use ie you get all kinds of horrible clicks etc
    You know you can switch the clicks off, right?

    couldn't we have a nice proper server side application display all the information to interface with the client?????
    Sure, sounds cool. When will you have it ready?

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    Dr Lovegrove
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    web ui = poop

    On 10/9/05, gb115b wrote:
    > couldn't we have a nice proper server side application display
    > all the information to interface with the client?????


    Have you tried Moose ?

    It's early stages, but the Now Playing dialog's kinda Sonos..

    http://www.rusticrhino.com/drlovegrove

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    I'm sure I'll be sorry I asked, but what's with the moose and rhino theme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lovegrove
    Have you tried Moose ?
    Couldn't get it to work. It locked up on scanning my music directory, so I had to kill it after a while (half an hour). Started it again, it knew about many songs, so I tried to get it to play one. No joy. Anything diagnostic I can do or report?

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    Dr Lovegrove
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    Re: web ui = poop

    Hi Michael,

    No real way of debugging the scanning.. I'll do a build
    tomorrow which spits out some diagnostics.. I've not
    seen it lock up during scanning, so this could be
    rather handy.. How's your setup arranged ? Anything
    'special' about your collection - shortcuts, links, etc ?

    Playback - which server build are you using ? I've had a
    couple of people saying playback doesnt work but I cant
    repeat it. Does the 'now playing' dialog show track names
    and things ?

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lovegrove
    Anything 'special' about your collection - shortcuts, links, etc ?
    I tried Moose out with the copy of my moo-sic (sorry, couldn't resist) sitting on a USB hard disk hooked up to a slug. (Linksys NSLU2). So it's a slow samba server. Not sure if that's important or not. I have 2 other copies of the music, in other places on the network here, so if that's the obstacle, I could try another copy. It's just painful waiting for the slimserver to scan 75GB of songs yet again. It takes an hour or so, maybe more.

    Playback - which server build are you using ?
    At the moment, 5.4.0. This varies day by day, sometimes ... depends on what I'm trying to test.
    Does the 'now playing' dialog show track names and things ?
    Nope.

    You didn't answer my question about the moose and rhino symbolism.

    And now I'll raise you one question. Is there a reason you didn't get the song info from slim rather than re-reading it all yourself. Even tho slim is a dog at reading it, surely once read it's faster to get it from slim than to do it again yourself? Or is that an unfounded assumption?

    Michael

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    Dr Lovegrove
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    Re: web ui = poop

    On 11/10/05, Michaelwagner wrote:
    >
    > I tried Moose out with the copy of my moo-sic (sorry, couldn't resist)
    > sitting on a USB hard disk hooked up to a slug. (Linksys NSLU2). So
    > it's a slow samba server. Not sure if that's important or not. I have 2
    > other copies of the music, in other places on the network here, so if
    > that's the obstacle, I could try another copy. It's just painful
    > waiting for the slimserver to scan 75GB of songs yet again. It takes an
    > hour or so, maybe more.


    Sounds ok. I've put up a new build (0.06) which has a 'Debug Log'
    option in the file menu. If you tick this, it'll write out lots of information
    to a log.txt file. Currently it shows all the scanning debug, and every
    CLI message that goes back and forth to the server, so should help
    a bit.. Tick it and do a rescan..

    > At the moment, 5.4.0. This varies day by day, sometimes ... depends on
    > what I'm trying to test.


    Ahh, possibly the problem.. I tend to coast along on the bleeding
    edge with 6.2.. I've just given 5.4 a go though and it 'seems' ok..
    It doesnt support the status command though, so I've tweaked
    Moose to use its old title requesting CLI code if version returns
    a '?'.. Not quite sure when the version command was added ?

    > > Does the 'now playing' dialog show track names and things ?

    > Nope.


    Hopefully will now.. If not, click the tags/path button in the now
    playing dialog.

    Thumbnail coverart wont be shown as I use the current/thumb.jpg
    url.

    > You didn't answer my question about the moose and rhino symbolism.


    Ahh, the rhino stuff's from an old band I was in - just an easy place
    to put files and things..

    Moose ? Well, who knows.. Kinda random, but, yeah, as you say
    moo-sic.. Maybe it stands for something.. Mp3 Or Ogg Selection
    Environment ? Dunno.. Open to suggestions.. :-)

    > And now I'll raise you one question. Is there a reason you didn't get
    > the song info from slim rather than re-reading it all yourself. Even
    > tho slim is a dog at reading it, surely once read it's faster to get it
    > from slim than to do it again yourself? Or is that an unfounded
    > assumption?


    Well, numerous reasons.. When I started the slimserver database
    was just a serialised perl hashtable, or whatever, and they were talking
    about doing it properly, which they now have.. I'll hopefully get
    round to adding a scan db option.. I see there's talk of changing it
    again in the roadmap, so who knows..

    Also, for my collection, a server rescan takes several hours, but a
    moose rescan takes about 5 mins.. Now when I add files, I just
    do the moose rescan, and I can start listening straight away..

    Aaah, and the other reason was I wanted to add some library
    cleanup kind of features, and maybe alternate thumbnail bitmap,
    album details, etc..

    Playlist stuff next though.. :-)

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