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  1. #1
    David Lister
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    Slimserver wav flac problem

    I have just downloaded Slimserver 5.4, with a view to buying a Squeezebox
    in the future.

    I can play mp3 files ok in my software mp3 player (jetAudio).

    However, I am unable to play wav or flac files.

    The 'PLAY' button at the top of the right hand pane in Slimserver is
    ineffective (it should turn orange when pressed).

    I have tried various wav files (all 14400, 16 bit) - they all fail.

    Can anyone please help? Why is Slimserver only able to play mp3?

    What am I doing wrong?

    Regards
    David Lister
    17 Hill Avenue
    Grantham
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    NG31 9BA

    01476 564771

  2. #2
    Aaron Zinck
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    Slimserver wav flac problem

    You probably need to install lame_enc.dll in your slimserver bin directory.
    You need this for slimserver to be able to convert from raw (wav) to mp3 for
    streaming to your music player. If you want to get the complete feel for
    what a squeezebox is like you should try out softsqueeze--it's exactly like
    a squeezebox (and if you don't want to compromise the sound quality of your
    flacs sotsqueeze will allow streaming of the uncompressed wav without
    conversion to mp3).

  3. #3
    David Lister
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    Slimserver wav flac problem

    Thanks for your help.

    I know that lame is not installed on my system (Windows 2000) - I have had
    an error message informing me of this when attempting to convert flac to
    mp3 streaming (in order to see if flac/mp3 conversion would work after
    flac/wav streaming didn't work).

    My impression is that I should be able to play flac files as a wav stream
    (without converting to mp3).

    Wav File Format - Wav Stream Format is built in to Slimserver (File
    Types|File Format Conversion Setup)

    I did try softsqueeze - I wasn't able to install it. I double-clicked on
    softsqueeze.jnlp - Java Webstart came up with an error message 'Unable to
    launch the specified application'

    (An error occurred while launching/running the application.

    Category: Launch File Error

    The field <jnlp>codebase has an invalid value: http://[% host
    %]/html/softsqueeze/)

    I didn't pursue this any further (I launched softsqueeze.jnlp from C:\test
    - was this the wrong thing to do?)

    If I get a Squeezebox I will want to stream my flac collection. To do this
    I will need to get familiar with Slimserver. Apart from streaming mp3
    (which I don't need), I'm not having much luck.

    At 08:57 08/03/2005 -0500, you wrote:
    >You probably need to install lame_enc.dll in your slimserver bin directory.
    >You need this for slimserver to be able to convert from raw (wav) to mp3 for
    >streaming to your music player. If you want to get the complete feel for
    >what a squeezebox is like you should try out softsqueeze--it's exactly like
    >a squeezebox (and if you don't want to compromise the sound quality of your
    >flacs sotsqueeze will allow streaming of the uncompressed wav without
    >conversion to mp3).
    >
    >
    >
    >

  4. #4
    Aaron Zinck
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    Slimserver wav flac problem

    "David Lister" wrote
    > Thanks for your help.


    No problem

    > I know that lame is not installed on my system (Windows 2000) - I have had
    > an error message informing me of this when attempting to convert flac to
    > mp3 streaming (in order to see if flac/mp3 conversion would work after
    > flac/wav streaming didn't work).
    >
    > My impression is that I should be able to play flac files as a wav stream
    > (without converting to mp3).


    This is true in the case of softsqueeze or a squeezebox--however when
    streaming through the http://slimserverip:9000/stream.mp3 method it all has
    to be streamed as mp3, so you'll need lame to convert the wav to mp3.

    > I did try softsqueeze - I wasn't able to install it. I double-clicked on
    > softsqueeze.jnlp - Java Webstart came up with an error message 'Unable to
    > launch the specified application'


    The easiest way to launch softsqueeze is to do it through the web interface.
    You'll find it on the main menu of the web interface down at the bottom in
    the "help" section. There's a link on that page to install and run
    softsqueeze right from there with no other configuration needed.

  5. #5
    David Lister
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    Slimserver wav flac problem

    Thanks for clearing up my confusion regarding flac streaming when not using
    Squeezebox or Softsqueeze.

    I have got Softsqueeze working OK and playing flac files.

    I will install lame to see if I can get flac/mp3 streaming working.

    Can you possibly clear up two other things that I can't understand.

    1/ After starting Softsqueeze I am able to browse all my albums by searching *

    I am able to see all the albums on a full=screen display, and am able to
    scroll through them in order to select which ones I want to play.

    If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
    able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
    search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
    browse as well).

    2/ I am able to select and play albums from within Softsqueeze with no
    problems.

    How can I use Slimserver to control what is being played on Softsqueeze - I
    can see the playlist, Slimserver says 'Now Playing', but nothing seems to
    be happening. Is it possible to control album playing in Softsqueeze from
    Slimserver?


    >> I know that lame is not installed on my system (Windows 2000) - I have had
    >> an error message informing me of this when attempting to convert flac to
    >> mp3 streaming (in order to see if flac/mp3 conversion would work after
    >> flac/wav streaming didn't work).
    >>
    >> My impression is that I should be able to play flac files as a wav stream
    >> (without converting to mp3).

    >
    >This is true in the case of softsqueeze or a squeezebox--however when
    >streaming through the http://slimserverip:9000/stream.mp3 method it all has
    >to be streamed as mp3, so you'll need lame to convert the wav to mp3.
    >
    >> I did try softsqueeze - I wasn't able to install it. I double-clicked on
    >> softsqueeze.jnlp - Java Webstart came up with an error message 'Unable to
    >> launch the specified application'

    >
    >The easiest way to launch softsqueeze is to do it through the web interface.
    >You'll find it on the main menu of the web interface down at the bottom in
    >the "help" section. There's a link on that page to install and run
    >softsqueeze right from there with no other configuration needed.
    >
    >
    >
    >

  6. #6
    NOT a Slim Devices Employee kdf's Avatar
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    Slimserver wav flac problem

    Quoting David Lister <dl (AT) owm (DOT) co.uk>:

    > 1/ After starting Softsqueeze I am able to browse all my albums by searching
    > *
    >
    > I am able to see all the albums on a full=screen display, and am able to
    > scroll through them in order to select which ones I want to play.
    >
    > If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
    > able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
    > search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
    > browse as well).


    The web interface allows full browsing by artist, genre, album and by album
    artwork(and in the upcoming 6.0: new music, year). Adding items from teh web
    interface of slimserver will play them on your player.

    > 2/ I am able to select and play albums from within Softsqueeze with no
    > problems.
    >
    > How can I use Slimserver to control what is being played on Softsqueeze - I
    > can see the playlist, Slimserver says 'Now Playing', but nothing seems to
    > be happening. Is it possible to control album playing in Softsqueeze from
    > Slimserver?


    the slimserver GUI is basically a web interface. The default skin refreshes
    every 30 seconds, so unless you initiate control from the GUI (or any browser
    on any computer pointed to http://serverIP:9000/) then you would have to wait
    for that refresh in order to get an updated status on the player. The right
    side fo teh GUI is your current state, topped by a status pane, and the
    playlist below. On the left you should see a list of browse, search, settings,
    and help items to choose from. Browse and Search let you add songs to your
    player(s)' current playlist.

    cheers,
    kdf

  7. #7
    David Lister
    Guest

    Slimserver wav flac problem

    Thanks - it's all becoming a lot clearer now.

    Regards
    >
    >> 1/ After starting Softsqueeze I am able to browse all my albums by

    searching
    >> *
    >>
    >> I am able to see all the albums on a full=screen display, and am able to
    >> scroll through them in order to select which ones I want to play.
    >>
    >> If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
    >> able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
    >> search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
    >> browse as well).

    >
    >The web interface allows full browsing by artist, genre, album and by album
    >artwork(and in the upcoming 6.0: new music, year). Adding items from teh web
    >interface of slimserver will play them on your player.
    >
    >> 2/ I am able to select and play albums from within Softsqueeze with no
    >> problems.
    >>
    >> How can I use Slimserver to control what is being played on Softsqueeze - I
    >> can see the playlist, Slimserver says 'Now Playing', but nothing seems to
    >> be happening. Is it possible to control album playing in Softsqueeze from
    >> Slimserver?

    >
    >the slimserver GUI is basically a web interface. The default skin refreshes
    >every 30 seconds, so unless you initiate control from the GUI (or any browser
    >on any computer pointed to http://serverIP:9000/) then you would have to wait
    >for that refresh in order to get an updated status on the player. The right
    >side fo teh GUI is your current state, topped by a status pane, and the
    >playlist below. On the left you should see a list of browse, search,

    settings,
    >and help items to choose from. Browse and Search let you add songs to your
    >player(s)' current playlist.
    >
    >cheers,
    >kdf
    >

  8. #8
    Aaron Zinck
    Guest

    Slimserver wav flac problem

    > If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
    > able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
    > search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
    > browse as well).


    In softsqueeze use the arrow keys to navigate the interface. Left arrow
    goes back up the menu hierarchy, up and down arrows browse throught the
    selections at the current menu level, and the right arrow selects the
    current selection and drills deeper into the hierarchy. Softsqueeze (like
    the squeezebox) allows full navigation and browsing of your music by album,
    artist, and genre. You'll find the "Browse Music" option at the highest
    level of the menu hierarchy.

  9. #9
    David Lister
    Guest

    Slimserver wav flac problem

    Thanks once again.

    I eventually worked out the navigation - it works as well as as I hoped it
    would.

    What I really like is the 'Browse Music Folder' option - no matter how
    badly I organise my albums in Explorer/PowerDesk I will always be able to
    find everything I've ripped without too much trouble.

    I've added lame.exe to Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread - I can stream to
    jetAudio now.

    PS: I'll get a Squeezebox when it supports WPA and 802.11g (I believe it is
    only 802.11b at the moment).

    Regards



    At 13:53 08/03/2005 -0500, you wrote:
    >> If I get a Squeezebox, there won't be a full-screen display. How will I be
    >> able to scroll/browse through my collection (I know I will be able to
    >> search for specific albums/tiles/artists, but I would like to be able to
    >> browse as well).

    >
    >In softsqueeze use the arrow keys to navigate the interface. Left arrow
    >goes back up the menu hierarchy, up and down arrows browse throught the
    >selections at the current menu level, and the right arrow selects the
    >current selection and drills deeper into the hierarchy. Softsqueeze (like
    >the squeezebox) allows full navigation and browsing of your music by album,
    >artist, and genre. You'll find the "Browse Music" option at the highest
    >level of the menu hierarchy.
    >
    >
    >
    >

  10. #10
    Founder, Slim Devices seanadams's Avatar
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    Slimserver wav flac problem

    >
    > PS: I'll get a Squeezebox when it supports WPA and 802.11g (I believe
    > it is
    > only 802.11b at the moment).
    >


    Hold your breath.

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