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    Quote Originally Posted by frank1969 View Post
    Yes, I was looking at extended tags.

    The way I work is the following:
    I have defined a set of - I guess 12 - tags I only use ALBUM;ALBUMARTIST;ARTIST;COMPOSER;COPYRIGHT;GENRE; LYRICIST;MEDIATYPE;PICTURE;TITLE;TRACK;YEAR
    When I add a new file to the database I use a predefined action that removes all tags except ALBUM;ALBUMARTIST;ARTIST;COMPOSER;COPYRIGHT;GENRE; LYRICIST;MEDIATYPE;PICTURE;TITLE;TRACK;YEAR .
    So there should no user tag in db (except i made a mistake).

    When I try to find errors, first thing is to call "extended tags" in mp3tag to see, if there is (for any reason) any other tag than the 12 defined. This wasn't the case.
    So next step is to see, what tags have different values (mp3tag shows this in one glance). This usually should only be ARTIST;COMPOSER;LYRICIST;TITLE;TRACK .
    So I double checked is with this album - there are no duets, and I didn't add the composers and lyricsts, so ARTIST was identical and COMPOSER and LYRICST was empty. So TITLE and TRACK were the only tags with different values...

    But once again:
    I remember Michael found this bug a few weeks ago and fixed it and I could confess it was fixed. So I hope it is only a "little regression"...
    It still works for me so the mystery is why it doesn't work for you.

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    An old "friend" is back: Album split in 2albums

    > - I have an existing album
    > - I change the title tag (in this case adding "(Radio Edit)" to the
    > existing track #3 - no other changes, no renaming
    > - I do a "new & changed"-scan
    > - I have 2 albums by the same artist with the same name in my db - one
    > containing only track #3, and one containing tracks #1-2 and #4-12


    You have changed the _track_ title, and it created a new album? That
    would definitely be a new issue. Previously we dealt with changing the
    album titles. A track title change should really not change the album
    attribution etc. unless editing/saving the metadata at the same time
    changed other album or artist related data in the file, eg. by replacing
    some characters in a name.

    I know, you can't grant me access to your database. But would you be
    able to export all the track, contributor, album related data for this
    one particular album from the database? Can you export from SQLite to
    some text file (with delimiters)? Please no Excel or other format which
    might have its own ideas about formatting. Just the raw text content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    > - I have an existing album
    > - I change the title tag (in this case adding "(Radio Edit)" to the
    > existing track #3 - no other changes, no renaming
    > - I do a "new & changed"-scan
    > - I have 2 albums by the same artist with the same name in my db - one
    > containing only track #3, and one containing tracks #1-2 and #4-12


    You have changed the _track_ title, and it created a new album? That
    would definitely be a new issue. Previously we dealt with changing the
    album titles. A track title change should really not change the album
    attribution etc. unless editing/saving the metadata at the same time
    changed other album or artist related data in the file, eg. by replacing
    some characters in a name.

    I know, you can't grant me access to your database. But would you be
    able to export all the track, contributor, album related data for this
    one particular album from the database? Can you export from SQLite to
    some text file (with delimiters)? Please no Excel or other format which
    might have its own ideas about formatting. Just the raw text content.
    Ah, this was the one I thought about
    https://github.com/Logitech/slimserv...75fd2aca5ca6f8
    I overlooked, it's about album title (eg. though You meant #title tags from an album, not the #album tag) - thought it was about changing (track) titles for I had this issue with track titles often before myself and thought it was fixed.

    Unfortunately this time I can't "give You anything", for after recognizing the issue I renamed the filename of the changed file and did a rescan, so it is already fixed and I can't see anything in the db.
    But from now one I will once again keep a copy of library and log-files so I have it "at my hand" if it happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank1969 View Post
    Ah, this was the one I thought about
    https://github.com/Logitech/slimserv...75fd2aca5ca6f8
    I overlooked, it's about album title (eg. though You meant #title tags from an album, not the #album tag) - thought it was about changing (track) titles for I had this issue with track titles often before myself and thought it was fixed.

    Unfortunately this time I can't "give You anything", for after recognizing the issue I renamed the filename of the changed file and did a rescan, so it is already fixed and I can't see anything in the db.
    But from now one I will once again keep a copy of library and log-files so I have it "at my hand" if it happens again.
    I thought the album title was the album tag. Am I wrong? An album doesn't have tags of its own, the tracks in the album have the album title in the album tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    I thought the album title was the album tag. Am I wrong? An album doesn't have tags of its own, the tracks in the album have the album title in the album tag.
    Of course You're right, I only wanted to explain why I misunderstood Michael.
    Meanwhile I've seen what causes the bug (seems to be artwork and/or a german umlaut, will write later when I analyzed / exported the artwork.db

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post

    You have changed the _track_ title, and it created a new album?
    Yes, that's exactly what I did.
    Meanwhile I was able to reproduce the behaviour by changing the title again the other way round:
    I changed the (track) title from "Sommarens sista sang (Radio Edit)" back to "Sommarens sista sang".
    On another track "Bland nattens skuggor" I just pressed "save" (wthout any changes) to have scanner changed this track too (I wanna have TWO files scanned to be sure that's it is not caused by anything on this ONE special file)

    Once again: I did Nothing else and started a new&changed - and got 2 albums again.

    That are the lines I found in scanner.log:

    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6718] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6723] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\01 - Peter Joeback - Aer det haer platsen.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6728] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\02 - Peter Joeback - Du har foerlorat mer aen jag.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6738] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\03 - Peter Joeback - Sommarens sista sang (Radio Edit).mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6743] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\04 - Peter Joeback - Ingen skyldighet.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6748] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\05 - Peter Joeback - Mellan en far och en son.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6753] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\06 - Peter Joeback - Bland nattens skuggor.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6758] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\07 - Peter Joeback - Jag baer dig.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6763] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\08 - Peter Joeback - Du behoever ingen hjaelp.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6768] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\09 - Peter Joeback - Gloemskans tag.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6774] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\10 - Peter Joeback - Goer det nu.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6778] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\11 - Peter Joeback - I allt jag ser.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6783] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\12 - Peter Joeback - Jag skulle aldrig be dig.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6788] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\13 - Peter Joeback - Ha lite tro pa mig.mp3
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.0390] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (466) Notify to server OK
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.0438] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::changed (975) Handling changed audio track file:///M:/P/Peter%20Joeback/2004%20-%20Det%20haer%20aer%20platsen/03%20-%20Peter%20Joeback%20-%20Sommarens%20sista%20sang%20(Radio%20Edit).mp3
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.1134] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::changed (975) Handling changed audio track file:///M:/P/Peter%20Joeback/2004%20-%20Det%20haer%20aer%20platsen/06%20-%20Peter%20Joeback%20-%20Bland%20nattens%20skuggor.mp3
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.1475] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (442) Notify to server: [
    "progress:1648646844||importer||M:|directory_chang ed||51||51||1648646844.1471",
    ]

    [22-03-30 15:37:47.2263] Slim::Music::Artwork::__ANON__ (767) Pre-caching artwork for Det här är platsen from M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\03 - Peter Joeback - Sommarens sista sang (Radio Edit).mp3

    To eplain:
    The album titel (album tag) is "Det hr r platsen" with German/Dansk Umlauts - my folder and file names are without Umlauts ( = ae) but they remain of course in the tags.

    So I took a look at the artwork tags.

    BEFORE the scan I had 1 album:
    album.id = 95331
    album.title = Det hr r platsen
    album.titlesort = DET HR R PLATSEN
    album.titlesearch = DET HAR AR PLATSEN
    album.artwork = 7a015949
    album.contributor = 53377

    on all (13) tracks on the album I saw:
    tracks.cover = 66910
    tracks.coverid = 7a015949

    AFTER the new&changed I had 2 albums:

    album.id = 95331 + 96730
    album.title = Det hr r platsen
    album.titlesort = DET HR R PLATSEN
    album.titlesearch = DET HAR AR PLATSEN
    album.artwork = 7a015949 + a6062776 (for album.id = 96730)
    album.contributor = 53377

    on the 2 changed tracks I see:
    tracks.cover = 66910
    tracks.coverid = a6062776

    on the (11) unchanged tracks I see:
    tracks.cover = 66910
    tracks.coverid = 7a015949

    So it looks to me, scanner saw the cover art on the file with the changed #title as new and therefore created a new album?

    To explain:
    - I have a "folder.jpg" in the albums folder
    - I have the folder.jpg embedded in the mp3-file (usually with mp3.tag)
    - I did NO changes to the artwork - before and after it is the same folder.jpg lying in the folder and the same folder.jpg embedded into the files.

    Web interface shows it on all (13) files still as " APIC: [ image/jpeg, 3, , 66910, 216 ] "


    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    [color=blue]Can you export from SQLite to
    some text file (with delimiters)? Please no Excel or other format which
    might have its own ideas about formatting. Just the raw text content.[/COVER]
    I'll attach it to this post directly

    PS:
    I can't see anything relating in artwork.db - maybe You could tell me if You need some information from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apesbrain View Post
    This happens to me quite a bit. I put a skip sentinel file in the album folder, scan again, then remove the sentinel and scan a final time. That typically "fixes" it.

    Something similar happens when I edit tags: the album might not be split, but the revised tags "append" to the old ones rather than replace them.

    Would be great if "new/changed rescan" could completely flush and rebuild the database entry for any detected files.

    I'm running a current 8.3 beta on Windows.
    I've experienced something similar and usually a full rescan corrects it.
    Or copy the folder to a safe directory; delete the original folder and rescan. Then copy the folder back and rescan.


    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    In the past, this would happen to me, when everything appeared the same, but one file had a "disc total" tag field, or something similar that made that track different. (this might happen if I re-ripped just one track at the time of ripping the disk)
    Been there as well. I hope that you recognized it faster than I did! I concentrated on examining the other tags like artist name, artist sort, track title, etc. that I just overlooked that 'disc' tag.

    To the OP, I would advise to check the 'album sort' field if it is populated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank1969 View Post
    Yes, that's exactly what I did.
    Meanwhile I was able to reproduce the behaviour by changing the title again the other way round:
    I changed the (track) title from "Sommarens sista sang (Radio Edit)" back to "Sommarens sista sang".
    On another track "Bland nattens skuggor" I just pressed "save" (wthout any changes) to have scanner changed this track too (I wanna have TWO files scanned to be sure that's it is not caused by anything on this ONE special file)

    Once again: I did Nothing else and started a new&changed - and got 2 albums again.

    That are the lines I found in scanner.log:

    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6718] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6723] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\01 - Peter Joeback - Aer det haer platsen.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6728] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\02 - Peter Joeback - Du har foerlorat mer aen jag.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6738] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\03 - Peter Joeback - Sommarens sista sang (Radio Edit).mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6743] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\04 - Peter Joeback - Ingen skyldighet.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6748] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\05 - Peter Joeback - Mellan en far och en son.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6753] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\06 - Peter Joeback - Bland nattens skuggor.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6758] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\07 - Peter Joeback - Jag baer dig.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6763] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\08 - Peter Joeback - Du behoever ingen hjaelp.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6768] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\09 - Peter Joeback - Gloemskans tag.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6774] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\10 - Peter Joeback - Goer det nu.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6778] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\11 - Peter Joeback - I allt jag ser.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6783] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\12 - Peter Joeback - Jag skulle aldrig be dig.mp3
    [22-03-30 14:58:55.6788] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::Async::__ANON__ (148) Found M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\13 - Peter Joeback - Ha lite tro pa mig.mp3
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.0390] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (466) Notify to server OK
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.0438] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::changed (975) Handling changed audio track file:///M:/P/Peter%20Joeback/2004%20-%20Det%20haer%20aer%20platsen/03%20-%20Peter%20Joeback%20-%20Sommarens%20sista%20sang%20(Radio%20Edit).mp3
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.1134] Slim::Utils::Scanner::Local::changed (975) Handling changed audio track file:///M:/P/Peter%20Joeback/2004%20-%20Det%20haer%20aer%20platsen/06%20-%20Peter%20Joeback%20-%20Bland%20nattens%20skuggor.mp3
    [22-03-30 15:27:24.1475] Slim::Utils::SQLiteHelper::updateProgress (442) Notify to server: [
    "progress:1648646844||importer||M:|directory_chang ed||51||51||1648646844.1471",
    ]

    [22-03-30 15:37:47.2263] Slim::Music::Artwork::__ANON__ (767) Pre-caching artwork for Det här är platsen from M:\P\Peter Joeback\2004 - Det haer aer platsen\03 - Peter Joeback - Sommarens sista sang (Radio Edit).mp3

    To eplain:
    The album titel (album tag) is "Det hr r platsen" with German/Dansk Umlauts - my folder and file names are without Umlauts ( = ae) but they remain of course in the tags.

    So I took a look at the artwork tags.

    BEFORE the scan I had 1 album:
    album.id = 95331
    album.title = Det hr r platsen
    album.titlesort = DET HR R PLATSEN
    album.titlesearch = DET HAR AR PLATSEN
    album.artwork = 7a015949
    album.contributor = 53377

    on all (13) tracks on the album I saw:
    tracks.cover = 66910
    tracks.coverid = 7a015949

    AFTER the new&changed I had 2 albums:

    album.id = 95331 + 96730
    album.title = Det hr r platsen
    album.titlesort = DET HR R PLATSEN
    album.titlesearch = DET HAR AR PLATSEN
    album.artwork = 7a015949 + a6062776 (for album.id = 96730)
    album.contributor = 53377

    on the 2 changed tracks I see:
    tracks.cover = 66910
    tracks.coverid = a6062776

    on the (11) unchanged tracks I see:
    tracks.cover = 66910
    tracks.coverid = 7a015949

    So it looks to me, scanner saw the cover art on the file with the changed #title as new and therefore created a new album?

    To explain:
    - I have a "folder.jpg" in the albums folder
    - I have the folder.jpg embedded in the mp3-file (usually with mp3.tag)
    - I did NO changes to the artwork - before and after it is the same folder.jpg lying in the folder and the same folder.jpg embedded into the files.

    Web interface shows it on all (13) files still as " APIC: [ image/jpeg, 3, , 66910, 216 ] "




    I'll attach it to this post directly

    PS:
    I can't see anything relating in artwork.db - maybe You could tell me if You need some information from there.
    After seeing that your tracks have embedded artwork I tried changing a track title of a track containing embedded artwork. I still can't reproduce the split album issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    After seeing that your tracks have embedded artwork I tried changing a track title of a track containing embedded artwork. I still can't reproduce the split album issue.
    OK, but I can - and I can reproduce and as You see from my database excerpt, the issue happens.
    I have e.g. no explanation why scanner recognized the artwork change if artwork isn't changed at all...
    I remember "my" last bug if it took weeks to find the explanation, that it happens depending on the total number of changes in my database.

    I am sure that there is a logical explanation for this issue - log files tell me I don't have any hallucinations ))

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank1969 View Post
    OK, but I can - and I can reproduce and as You see from my database excerpt, the issue happens.
    I have e.g. no explanation why scanner recognized the artwork change if artwork isn't changed at all...
    I remember "my" last bug if it took weeks to find the explanation, that it happens depending on the total number of changes in my database.

    I am sure that there is a logical explanation for this issue - log files tell me I don't have any hallucinations ))
    Have you tried a different album?

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