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  • Labarum
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 820

    No Album No Artist

    > 'html/audio/silence.ogg'

    Ok, I believe the OP's issue was down to his music folder configuration.
    If that was a general problem with Material, we'd have had tons of
    reports before.
    Brian

    In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

    In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s
  • Labarum
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 820

    #2
    No Album No Artist

    I 've been trying to tidy up my SqeezeLibrary after nearly 20 years of filling it with junk!

    There was an item displaying as "No Album" which was full of corruptions. I have finally cleansed it apart from an OGG silence that is not in may FLAC folder but in a cache associated with the Material Skin (which I love).

    What do I do with this?

    /mnt/musiclibrary/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/MaterialSkin/HTML/material/html/audio/silence.ogg

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    Do I delete it? How? Presumababy with Samba. Or is it an essential part of the skin? I seem to remember reading somewhere a silence is inserted.
    Brian

    In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

    In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s

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    • mherger
      Babelfish's Best Boy
      • Apr 2005
      • 24640

      #3
      No Album No Artist

      > What do I do with this?

      Don't scan your cache folder! Why would you do so?
      Michael

      "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!"
      (LMS: Settings/Information)

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      • kidstypike
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 6444

        #4
        I have the same file, same modified date. I don't have a "No Album" entry though.

        I'd leave it, or ask Craig in the Material thread.

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        Pi5 .. pCP 9beta5 .. LMS 8.4 -- nomysqueezebox
        Study - Pi2B .. S.M.S.L SU-1 .. Q Acoustics M20
        Snug/TV .. DAC32 .. Audio Engine B2
        Spares - 1xSBTouch, 1xSB3, 4xRPi, AVI DM5 speakers

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        • cpd73
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2017
          • 5130

          #5
          Originally posted by Labarum
          /mnt/musiclibrary/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/MaterialSkin/HTML/material/html/audio/silence.ogg
          That is a 10 seconds of silence file. Its used to allow usage of media controls. For these to be active the web page (i.e. Material) needs to be playing a file, so Material plays this in a loop. (But only if you elect to use media controls)

          But, why are you even indexing this folder as part of your music collection?
          Material debug: 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json (Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here.

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          • RobbH
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 1291

            #6
            Originally posted by mherger
            Don't scan your cache folder! Why would you do so?
            Originally posted by cpd73
            ....
            But, why are you even indexing this folder as part of your music collection?
            How do you have your Media Folders set up in LMS Settings?
            Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players. Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic.

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            • cpd73
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2017
              • 5130

              #7
              Originally posted by RobbH
              How do you have your Media Folders set up in LMS Settings?
              Well for one, LMS is not located within my music folder - which is the issue here, I think.

              My LMS is in /usr/local/lms, and music is in /media/disk/Music - two completely separate folders.
              Material debug: 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json (Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here.

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              • mherger
                Babelfish's Best Boy
                • Apr 2005
                • 24640

                #8
                No Album No Artist

                >> /mnt/musiclibrary/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/MaterialSkin/HTML/material/html/audio/silence.ogg
                >
                > That is a 10 seconds of silence file. Its used to allow usage of media
                > controls.


                Oh, I see. How do you start it? LMS would add any file to its libray
                unless called using the tmp:// protocol handler.

                BTW: LMS comes with a silence.mp3, too
                (http://musicpi.local:9000/html/silence.mp3).
                Michael

                "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!"
                (LMS: Settings/Information)

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                • Labarum
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 820

                  #9
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                  I didn't think I was scanning anything other than my Music Library. The second ticked checkbox as seen above was how LMS/Material initially presented to me. I unchecked the lower box, cleared and scanned from scratch. The OGG file is still there.

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                  But I see there is a child of the music library folder called slimserver - is that the issue?

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                  And I noted a few days ago there is a cache on both the USB drive and on the card. And I noticed there was a move LMS Data button which, being a newbie I have not yet dare to play with.

                  I guess you are telling me all the LMS data should be on the card. I inherited a part set-up system and just took what was there.

                  So?

                  But otherwise everything is working splendidly.
                  Brian

                  In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

                  In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s

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                  • Labarum
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 820

                    #10
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                    But here is what I see on my Chromebook via Samba.

                    I called the USB drive MusicLibrary but the FLAC collection in SqueezeLibrary/FLAC

                    So it seems I may be casting my library scan too wide.
                    Brian

                    In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

                    In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s

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                    • kidstypike
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 6444

                      #11
                      Brian

                      I installed LMS for you on a vanilla pCP image, with no USB discs attached, so you must've told pCP to use the USB disc for the LMS cache.

                      You can keep the cache on the USB disc, (that's where mine is) but you should narrow the scanned music folder down to just "FLAC".
                      Pi5 .. pCP 9beta5 .. LMS 8.4 -- nomysqueezebox
                      Study - Pi2B .. S.M.S.L SU-1 .. Q Acoustics M20
                      Snug/TV .. DAC32 .. Audio Engine B2
                      Spares - 1xSBTouch, 1xSB3, 4xRPi, AVI DM5 speakers

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                      • cpd73
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2017
                        • 5130

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mherger
                        >> /mnt/musiclibrary/slimserver/Cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins/MaterialSkin/HTML/material/html/audio/silence.ogg
                        >
                        > That is a 10 seconds of silence file. Its used to allow usage of media
                        > controls.


                        Oh, I see. How do you start it? LMS would add any file to its libray
                        unless called using the tmp:// protocol handler.
                        It's played via Javascript in the browser.
                        Material debug: 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json (Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here.

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                        • Labarum
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 820

                          #13
                          Post #11 is too technical for me, but I think I have this sorted by moving the cache to the memory card.

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                          I'll get there in the end - it'll just take me longer than you Linux Gurus!

                          Thanks all. Do doubt I will have more daft questions later!

                          What I fear is breaking the installation in a way I cannot mend, for it really is developing beautifully for me
                          Brian

                          In UK: rPi4 running LMS, Chromecast Audio Dongle and Chromecast Video Dongle attached to TV - Beresford DAC - Quad 77 Integrated Amp - AVI Neutron 4 Speakers - Sennheiser HD25 Headphones. Boom in Bedroom.

                          In Nicosia: LMS running on a small form factor Windows PC, Beresford DAC into Quad 405-2 and MB Quart 980s

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                          • mherger
                            Babelfish's Best Boy
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 24640

                            #14
                            No Album No Artist

                            > It's played via Javascript in the browser.

                            Sure, but what URL are you using? Any reason why you're not using the
                            built-in file (there might be some code to not add it to the library -
                            haven't verified!).
                            Michael

                            "It doesn't work - what shall I do?" - "Please check your server.log and/or scanner.log file!"
                            (LMS: Settings/Information)

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                            • cpd73
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 5130

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mherger
                              > It's played via Javascript in the browser.

                              Sure, but what URL are you using? Any reason why you're not using the
                              built-in file (there might be some code to not add it to the library -
                              haven't verified!).
                              'html/audio/silence.ogg'

                              I located LMS's silence.mp3 - oddly this will not play in VLC. Using ffprobe it states its 26 seconds long. Its also a much larger file, my is very low bitrate and only 10 seconds.
                              Material debug: 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json (Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update messages, e.g. play queue) 2. Open browser's developer tools 3. Open console tab in developer tools 4. REQ/RESP messages sent to/from LMS will be logged here.

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