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  1. #1
    Jan Vilhuber
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    still see display corruption and crashes

    I've updated to firmware 33, using yesterday's nightly (08-16 I think),
    and I still see display corruption after some time, i.e. the characters
    on the display start running into each other. The only way to recover is
    a power-cycle, which is annoying.

    Also, the squeezeboxen seem to crash at time (go blank, requuire
    power-cycle).

    Interestingly, the squeezebox that has the display issue is the one
    sitting behind the wireless bridge (neither of my squeezeboxen are
    wireless). Maybe I'll swap them out to see if the wireless bridge makes
    a difference.

    Also, I think the squeezebox is the one I upgraded with the new
    display...

    jan

  2. #2
    Michael Brouwer
    Guest

    Re: still see display corruption and crashes

    I've had the same problem with firmware 33 and an upgraded wireless
    squeezebox. The other (perhaps related) problem I've seen is that when
    you display names containing special characters like Bj÷rk, it first
    displays as garbage (BjAErk or something like that) for a moment and
    then displays correctly.

    Michael

    On Aug 17, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:

    > I've updated to firmware 33, using yesterday's nightly (08-16 I think),
    > and I still see display corruption after some time, i.e. the characters
    > on the display start running into each other. The only way to recover
    > is
    > a power-cycle, which is annoying.
    >
    > Also, the squeezeboxen seem to crash at time (go blank, requuire
    > power-cycle).
    >
    > Interestingly, the squeezebox that has the display issue is the one
    > sitting behind the wireless bridge (neither of my squeezeboxen are
    > wireless). Maybe I'll swap them out to see if the wireless bridge makes
    > a difference.
    >
    > Also, I think the squeezebox is the one I upgraded with the new
    > display...
    >
    > jan
    >
    >
    >

  3. #3
    Jan Vilhuber
    Guest

    Re: still see display corruption and crashes

    OK, I've exchanged the squeezeboxen (the one with the problem that WAS
    behind a wireless bridge is now wired, and the one that WAS wired is now
    behind the wireless bridge). I'll report when/if anything changes.

    jan


    On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 16:35, Michael Brouwer wrote:
    > I've had the same problem with firmware 33 and an upgraded wireless
    > squeezebox. The other (perhaps related) problem I've seen is that when
    > you display names containing special characters like Bj÷rk, it first
    > displays as garbage (BjAErk or something like that) for a moment and
    > then displays correctly.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    > On Aug 17, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:
    >
    > > I've updated to firmware 33, using yesterday's nightly (08-16 I think),
    > > and I still see display corruption after some time, i.e. the characters
    > > on the display start running into each other. The only way to recover
    > > is
    > > a power-cycle, which is annoying.
    > >
    > > Also, the squeezeboxen seem to crash at time (go blank, requuire
    > > power-cycle).
    > >
    > > Interestingly, the squeezebox that has the display issue is the one
    > > sitting behind the wireless bridge (neither of my squeezeboxen are
    > > wireless). Maybe I'll swap them out to see if the wireless bridge makes
    > > a difference.
    > >
    > > Also, I think the squeezebox is the one I upgraded with the new
    > > display...
    > >
    > > jan
    > >
    > >
    > >

  4. #4
    Jan Vilhuber
    Guest

    Re: still see display corruption and crashes

    There's good news and bad news: The good news is that it doesn't seem to
    have anything to do with upgrading a Squeezebox.

    The bad news is that it's still happening, but now it's the squeezebox
    that previously was wired, and now sits behind a wireless hub.

    I'm wondering of the added latency of the wireless network is somehow
    causing a mess with the display somehow.

    Thoughts?
    jan


    On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 16:35, Michael Brouwer wrote:
    > I've had the same problem with firmware 33 and an upgraded wireless
    > squeezebox. The other (perhaps related) problem I've seen is that when
    > you display names containing special characters like Bj÷rk, it first
    > displays as garbage (BjAErk or something like that) for a moment and
    > then displays correctly.
    >
    > Michael
    >
    > On Aug 17, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:
    >
    > > I've updated to firmware 33, using yesterday's nightly (08-16 I think),
    > > and I still see display corruption after some time, i.e. the characters
    > > on the display start running into each other. The only way to recover
    > > is
    > > a power-cycle, which is annoying.
    > >
    > > Also, the squeezeboxen seem to crash at time (go blank, requuire
    > > power-cycle).
    > >
    > > Interestingly, the squeezebox that has the display issue is the one
    > > sitting behind the wireless bridge (neither of my squeezeboxen are
    > > wireless). Maybe I'll swap them out to see if the wireless bridge makes
    > > a difference.
    > >
    > > Also, I think the squeezebox is the one I upgraded with the new
    > > display...
    > >
    > > jan
    > >
    > >
    > >

  5. #5
    Gadfly, Former Founder Slim Devices dean's Avatar
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    Re: still see display corruption and crashes

    Jan,

    I'm looking into the Bjork problem now. What OS are you running? If
    it's not Mac or Windows, what version of Perl do you have installed?

    The display corruption is what Sean's working on now...

    -dean


    On Aug 18, 2004, at 10:35 AM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:

    > There's good news and bad news: The good news is that it doesn't seem
    > to
    > have anything to do with upgrading a Squeezebox.
    >
    > The bad news is that it's still happening, but now it's the squeezebox
    > that previously was wired, and now sits behind a wireless hub.
    >
    > I'm wondering of the added latency of the wireless network is somehow
    > causing a mess with the display somehow.
    >
    > Thoughts?
    > jan
    >
    >
    > On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 16:35, Michael Brouwer wrote:
    >> I've had the same problem with firmware 33 and an upgraded wireless
    >> squeezebox. The other (perhaps related) problem I've seen is that
    >> when
    >> you display names containing special characters like Bj÷rk, it first
    >> displays as garbage (BjAErk or something like that) for a moment and
    >> then displays correctly.
    >>
    >> Michael
    >>
    >> On Aug 17, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:
    >>
    >>> I've updated to firmware 33, using yesterday's nightly (08-16 I
    >>> think),
    >>> and I still see display corruption after some time, i.e. the
    >>> characters
    >>> on the display start running into each other. The only way to recover
    >>> is
    >>> a power-cycle, which is annoying.
    >>>
    >>> Also, the squeezeboxen seem to crash at time (go blank, requuire
    >>> power-cycle).
    >>>
    >>> Interestingly, the squeezebox that has the display issue is the one
    >>> sitting behind the wireless bridge (neither of my squeezeboxen are
    >>> wireless). Maybe I'll swap them out to see if the wireless bridge
    >>> makes
    >>> a difference.
    >>>
    >>> Also, I think the squeezebox is the one I upgraded with the new
    >>> display...
    >>>
    >>> jan
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

  6. #6
    Jan Vilhuber
    Guest

    Re: still see display corruption and crashes

    On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 10:46, dean blackketter wrote:
    > Jan,
    >
    > I'm looking into the Bjork problem now.


    I'm not sure if that's the problem I'm seeing or not. I usually see this
    when the bottom line is scrolling. I haven't done any more testing, but
    if I listen to the (Ottot's?) Baroque Classical music shoutcast stream,
    it's almost guaranteed to happen. Maybe there's umlaut characters in the
    stream description at times which could cause this. I don't know for
    sure.

    > What OS are you running? If
    > it's not Mac or Windows, what version of Perl do you have installed?
    >


    vilhuber@mediapc:~> perl -v

    This is perl, v5.8.3 built for i586-linux-thread-multi


    vilhuber@mediapc:~> uname -a
    Linux mediapc 2.6.5-7.104-default #1 Thu Aug 5 19:14:08 PDT 2004 i686
    athlon i386 GNU/Linux
    vilhuber@mediapc:~>

    > The display corruption is what Sean's working on now...
    >


    Let me know if I can gather any other info or do any tests (or run test
    code).

    jan


    > -dean
    >
    >
    > On Aug 18, 2004, at 10:35 AM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:
    >
    > > There's good news and bad news: The good news is that it doesn't seem
    > > to
    > > have anything to do with upgrading a Squeezebox.
    > >
    > > The bad news is that it's still happening, but now it's the squeezebox
    > > that previously was wired, and now sits behind a wireless hub.
    > >
    > > I'm wondering of the added latency of the wireless network is somehow
    > > causing a mess with the display somehow.
    > >
    > > Thoughts?
    > > jan
    > >
    > >
    > > On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 16:35, Michael Brouwer wrote:
    > >> I've had the same problem with firmware 33 and an upgraded wireless
    > >> squeezebox. The other (perhaps related) problem I've seen is that
    > >> when
    > >> you display names containing special characters like Bj÷rk, it first
    > >> displays as garbage (BjAErk or something like that) for a moment and
    > >> then displays correctly.
    > >>
    > >> Michael
    > >>
    > >> On Aug 17, 2004, at 2:33 PM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> I've updated to firmware 33, using yesterday's nightly (08-16 I
    > >>> think),
    > >>> and I still see display corruption after some time, i.e. the
    > >>> characters
    > >>> on the display start running into each other. The only way to recover
    > >>> is
    > >>> a power-cycle, which is annoying.
    > >>>
    > >>> Also, the squeezeboxen seem to crash at time (go blank, requuire
    > >>> power-cycle).
    > >>>
    > >>> Interestingly, the squeezebox that has the display issue is the one
    > >>> sitting behind the wireless bridge (neither of my squeezeboxen are
    > >>> wireless). Maybe I'll swap them out to see if the wireless bridge
    > >>> makes
    > >>> a difference.
    > >>>
    > >>> Also, I think the squeezebox is the one I upgraded with the new
    > >>> display...
    > >>>
    > >>> jan
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>>

  7. #7
    Gadfly, Former Founder Slim Devices dean's Avatar
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    Re: still see display corruption and crashes

    Hi Jan,

    On Aug 18, 2004, at 11:11 AM, Jan Vilhuber wrote:

    > On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 10:46, dean blackketter wrote:
    >> Jan,
    >>
    >> I'm looking into the Bjork problem now.

    >
    > I'm not sure if that's the problem I'm seeing or not. I usually see
    > this
    > when the bottom line is scrolling. I haven't done any more testing, but
    > if I listen to the (Ottot's?) Baroque Classical music shoutcast stream,
    > it's almost guaranteed to happen. Maybe there's umlaut characters in
    > the
    > stream description at times which could cause this. I don't know for
    > sure.

    I'm only able to reproduce it on my Linux machine as well, I've got a
    case, but it's very low level so it's taking me a while to figure it
    out.


    >> The display corruption is what Sean's working on now...
    >>

    >
    > Let me know if I can gather any other info or do any tests (or run test
    > code).

    Sean's got a reproduceable case now, so it's just a matter of him being
    able to track down the culprit.

    -dean

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