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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrum View Post
    I hope you don't mind me asking this is the middle of this "which" thread. I do not use a streaming service and am wondering what I am missing. Honestly, I am looking for you to talk me into one

    I have sb devices all over the place. Alot of my days are spent with music playing. I listen to my music library, about 20 or so of my favorite radio stations, and podcasts from time to time. I find that the radio stations "introduce" me to new music and artists, and "remind" me of music that I knew of, haven't heard in a while, etc. I listen to my library when I "feel like" listening to a particular artist or album. I use the youtube plugin to "look up" an artist a friend might mention.

    I do have nice audio equipment, but also enjoy something as simple as the sb radio.

    So, tell me, do the streaming services have "stations"? Do they have other ways of introducing you to new music (ala pandora)? Do you say to yourself "I feel like listening to ***" and go out and look at their available catalog?

    I guess I am asking you how you use it, and what you like about it to spend the monthly. Why is it better than, for example, the 4 radio paradise FLAC streams?

    Thanks

    Jim
    Up until 8-9 years ago I also relied on internet radio stations to provide me with new music. But after starting using Spotify I have to say that pretty much every new song or artist the last 6-7 years has come from Spotifys algorithms.

    Spotify has mainly three ways that I use for finding new music:

    1. Each Monday they present a playlist called Discover Weekly, which is music similar to that of the music I listened to previous week. It's definitely not perfect but I've found many new artists and songs with it.

    2. One can go through ones own favourite songs and in Spotify choose to start a Radio (i.e. a playlist with similar songs based on that particular favorite song of yours) for each and every one of those. This is probably the way I've found the most new artists and songs.

    3. Spotify creates about six playlists based on the songs I play the most or like the most. They're playlists with different genres of music, and those playlists consists of songs I already know and like, and songs I might not have heard before.

    A fourth way of discovering "new" music I've practiced this last year or so, is the Random Mix / Song Mix of LMS, which let's me rediscover music I haven't listened to in years.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrum View Post
    I hope you don't mind me asking this is the middle of this "which" thread. I do not use a streaming service and am wondering what I am missing. Honestly, I am looking for you to talk me into one

    I have sb devices all over the place. Alot of my days are spent with music playing. I listen to my music library, about 20 or so of my favorite radio stations, and podcasts from time to time. I find that the radio stations "introduce" me to new music and artists, and "remind" me of music that I knew of, haven't heard in a while, etc. I listen to my library when I "feel like" listening to a particular artist or album. I use the youtube plugin to "look up" an artist a friend might mention.

    I do have nice audio equipment, but also enjoy something as simple as the sb radio.

    So, tell me, do the streaming services have "stations"? Do they have other ways of introducing you to new music (ala pandora)? Do you say to yourself "I feel like listening to ***" and go out and look at their available catalog?

    I guess I am asking you how you use it, and what you like about it to spend the monthly. Why is it better than, for example, the 4 radio paradise FLAC streams?

    Thanks

    Jim
    It's not better than Radio Paradise but it is different. Since I started using Qobuz in earnest at cú15pm I haven't bought any new CDs at all but I've listened to a hell of a lot of newly released albums and because I have "favourited" them they appear in my LMS library to play whenever I want to play them be it on my HiFi or on a simple SB Radio. There are plenty of "Stations" to choose from.
    The biggest plus to me is the integration with DSTM/LastMix - I'll play an album or a few tracks from my collection and LastMix will then carrying on adding to the playlist indefinitely from both my library and from Qobuz. I've discovered loads of new stuff this way.
    Why not try a free trial and find out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrum View Post
    I hope you don't mind me asking this is the middle of this "which" thread. I do not use a streaming service and am wondering what I am missing. Honestly, I am looking for you to talk me into one

    I have sb devices all over the place. Alot of my days are spent with music playing. I listen to my music library, about 20 or so of my favorite radio stations, and podcasts from time to time. I find that the radio stations "introduce" me to new music and artists, and "remind" me of music that I knew of, haven't heard in a while, etc. I listen to my library when I "feel like" listening to a particular artist or album. I use the youtube plugin to "look up" an artist a friend might mention.

    I do have nice audio equipment, but also enjoy something as simple as the sb radio.

    So, tell me, do the streaming services have "stations"? Do they have other ways of introducing you to new music (ala pandora)? Do you say to yourself "I feel like listening to ***" and go out and look at their available catalog?

    I guess I am asking you how you use it, and what you like about it to spend the monthly. Why is it better than, for example, the 4 radio paradise FLAC streams?

    Thanks

    Jim
    I dont mind - it is a great question!

    For me I switched from CDs to Tidal because:

    1.I wanted to be able to access my music from all my devices (like my iPhone) also when being far from home

    2.I have ripped 100s of CDs to FLAC but I felt I was wasting my time when I could get someone else to do it

    3.The process of being introduced to a new album/artist on radio or by a friend to having the album is instant. I dont have to go to a shop or wait on mail (back when I had CDs it wasnt really an option to buy lossless online - maybe that has changed).

    4.With a large family with different music taste it is much easier/cheaper to build a very varied music collection with all from kids music to boybands and classical

    It is not only plusses though. There is something special about putting on an album that has been payed for and actually hold the physical cover in your hands.

    I dont really use Tidal for music discovery. I dont feel its very good. I mostly use local radiostations for that.
    Last edited by mrbang; 2021-07-29 at 11:13.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by ButC View Post
    Up until 8-9 years ago I also relied on internet radio stations to provide me with new music. But after starting using Spotify I have to say that pretty much every new song or artist the last 6-7 years has come from Spotifys algorithms.

    Spotify has mainly three ways that I use for finding new music:

    1. Each Monday they present a playlist called Discover Weekly, which is music similar to that of the music I listened to previous week. It's definitely not perfect but I've found many new artists and songs with it.

    2. One can go through ones own favourite songs and in Spotify choose to start a Radio (i.e. a playlist with similar songs based on that particular favorite song of yours) for each and every one of those. This is probably the way I've found the most new artists and songs.

    3. Spotify creates about six playlists based on the songs I play the most or like the most. They're playlists with different genres of music, and those playlists consists of songs I already know and like, and songs I might not have heard before.

    A fourth way of discovering "new" music I've practiced this last year or so, is the Random Mix / Song Mix of LMS, which let's me rediscover music I haven't listened to in years.
    I think this merits a new thread - I am interested in views on this.

    I use Spotify, largely to listen to music before I decide whether or not to buy it (generally either download or vinyl, rarely CD). I think this remunerates the artists better than Spotify plays alone.

    I wouldn't choose Spotify over owning a collection, because online services may turn out to be rather ephemeral. I also like to fine tune tags to my preference.

    I find out about new (to me) music to check out via several source - magazines (Mojo for classic rock, Wire for the more experimental), various websites and their mailings e.g. Bandcamp, recommendations from various music stores, and of course the 'What am I listening to' thread on these forums. Occasionally Spotify suggests something interesting to me, but not often because I generally don't listen to Spotify-curated playlists. I have in the past shared Spotify playlists with friends, which is useful.

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    Name 5 arguments why a spotify user should have a Squeezebox/Picoreplayer/LMS

    Hi guys,

    Read this whole thread and found it interesting. Also sorry for for my Q isn't 100% related to the OP's Q. I myself really not interested in any streaming service, have my own library that I'm more than pleased with.
    Anyway I'm huge fan of our "hobby" and more or less a music nerd and so are many of my friends. Sad thing is that most of them are hooked on "ease of use" more than quality of music (or SQ if you like). I've tried to talk them into our little "community" but really have no arguments why they should have a squeezebox type player since the only thing I know about streaming services is that they exist more or less. Many I know have a huge CD collection just laying around stored somewhere and I find it quite sad that instead of ripping their CD's to uncompressed they listen to the same music as mp3 streams (in the worst case) on their phone thru shitty headphones or maybe thru a BT to analogue device on their hifi. I guess what I'm kind of asking is if there is any good arguments to play their spotify stuff thru LMS instead? E.g more functionality or something? It seems there is plug-ins they might give more functions?

    Anotherthing I always wondered about is how does spotify and the likes work with volume adjustment when only using their apps as playing device? Is there replay gain embedded in their streams? Or perhaps some sort of compressor in their official apps? For me it would be unthinkable to not have a replay gain function.
    Last edited by doggod; 2021-07-30 at 07:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Don't you think Spotify will charge more for Spotify HiFi?

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    No. This will be a suicide. There are several services as Apple and Amazon offering HiRes content with Spotify cost

    This is my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
    Because Spotty which Michael has developed for LMS uses LibreSpot - a library of GPL code from third party developers. At this stage we do not even know what codec Spotify will use to deliver their HiFi offering - it could be simply Flac in an Ogg container or something less mainstream but whatever it is it will need to be built into LibreSpot first. It may be trivial or it may be complicated but inevitably we wont get Spotify HiFi into LMS on day 1 of their service.
    Well, it is possible you are right. Anyway, it is not important to me. I can wait. I am satisfied with the current quality of Spotify. Ogg Vorbis 320 works very well. In fact I think the most important aspect here is the mastering process.

    While Michael is behind Spotty, Iĺm calm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jotap_66 View Post
    No. This will be a suicide. There are several services as Apple and Amazon offering HiRes content with Spotify cost

    This is my opinion.

    JP
    I didn't realise other lossless services were the same price but you're right they are. Last time I looked there was only Qobuz, Tidal and Deezer and they still charge more for the HiFi streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jotap_66 View Post
    No. This will be a suicide. There are several services as Apple and Amazon offering HiRes content with Spotify cost

    This is my opinion.

    JP
    Neither Apple or Amazon are ever likely to be playable via LMS due to their closed code but how much are they then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
    Neither Apple or Amazon are ever likely to be playable via LMS due to their closed code but how much are they then?
    Well. You are right. I donĺt like Apple or Amazon services due to the closed code, but you have to bear in mind that many people do not use LMS. I m comparing cost.

    JP

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