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    Quote Originally Posted by verycd View Post
    Thank you everyone for the help. Since https is not support, guess there is no way to achieve the origial purpose of the device (for me), which is to play internet radio stations without keeping a computer on. What a pity. Indeed, for my use, a retired phone on a stand probably serves better because it will play all stations.
    you have been given good advice from the senior "go to" members here, but perhaps I can fill a couple gaps. In my mind "mysqueezebox.com" was developed for "out of the box" operation of the sb devices. However, the functionality is dwarfed by LMS, even early on. When logitech dropped the line, mysqueezebox development was dropped, while it remains alive (as was mentioned) thanks to logitech for legacy functionality. So when stations started migrating to https, mysqueezebox got less and less useful. mysqueezebox has other deficiencies that have developed over time.

    I understand your "play music with the computer off", as I used to run LMS on a windows machine, and every time I turned the computer off, I said "hey! what happened to the music??!!"

    As @slarti mentioned, using a raspberry pi as an "always on", low cost (<$50USD), low power server gives you what you are looking for including ALOT more. I chose to go the picoreplayer route, which is popular here, but there are others.

    Your touch is still a nice piece of kit, throw $50 at it for a cute litte rpi server, and if you choose to, add storage (local, network, etc) to add your library. You won't regret it. Think of it as an "add on" for your touch to play https if you like.

    There are alot of "how to" threads here we can point you to...

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    The Touch is about 10 years old and Logitech stopped development for Squeezboxes about 10 years ago as well.
    Logitech maintains the mysqueezbox.com server as a service to existing users.
    The https protocols required by the station are not implemented by the Touch because they were not developed 10 years ago. You need a local LMS to implement the https protocols.
    I use mysqueezbox.com as the server for my SB Radio at my office. I am currently streaming: https://18423.live.streamtheworld.com/KCBSFM.mp3. I have no idea why it works since mySB.com is not supposed to support https. I find some with https radio stations work and others don't.

    Paul

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    Thank you for all the valuable suggestions to take advantage of the squeezebox. I have been thinking about the raspberry pi.

    I emailed the radio station (vip-radios.fm) and asked if there was a http url link that I could use. It turns out simply dropping the "s" is the solution. I assume other radio stations probably also keep their older links alive while providing the https to TuneIn. I will certainly try if I face the same issue again.

    BTW. I clicked the "access your favorite streams as OPML" at the bottom of the "favorites" tab on mysqueezebox.com. Now I can only see the OPML links. I can still add new favorite http links but they will show as OPML below. Is there a way to go back and show all links as URLs? It will be easier to see the https links I put in previously and use "edit" to change them to "http" and see what will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Nelson View Post
    I use mysqueezbox.com as the server for my SB Radio at my office. I am currently streaming: https://18423.live.streamtheworld.com/KCBSFM.mp3. I have no idea why it works since mySB.com is not supposed to support https. I find some with https radio stations work and others don't.

    Paul
    IIRC mysqueezebox.com runs a version of LMS 7.7. and it knows that SB hardware players cannot play https streams so mysqueezbox.com substitutes http for https for the user in the hope the stream may play.

    Michael may be able to confirm this.

    You could check whether http://18423.live.streamtheworld.com/KCBSFM.mp3 streams OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by verycd View Post
    Thank you for all the valuable suggestions to take advantage of the squeezebox. I have been thinking about the raspberry pi.
    A pi or a similar is the way to go - all over a better service.

    I emailed the radio station (vip-radios.fm) and asked if there was a http url link that I could use. It turns out simply dropping the "s" is the solution. I assume other radio stations probably also keep their older links alive while providing the https to TuneIn. I will certainly try if I face the same issue again.
    Strange.
    Changing https to http is the first thing I tried and the http URLs didn't play for me. There can be other factors in the mix which can affect http/https support such as country and CDN.

    I tried:
    The yoga chill URLs I found are
    https://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/s...kAAC-YogaChill
    https://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/s...8mp3-YogaChill
    So I tried but they didn't play.
    http://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/se...kAAC-YogaChill
    http://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/se...8mp3-YogaChill

    I thought perhaps the non "https" URL might have a different non "secure" name so another vip-radios URL I tried:
    https://radio2.vip-radios.fm:18039/s...-BaySmoothJazz
    vs.
    http://radio2.vip-radios.fm:18039/st...-BaySmoothJazz

    Again the "http" didn't play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verycd View Post
    Thank you everyone for the help. Since https is not support, guess there is no way to achieve the origial purpose of the device (for me), which is to play internet radio stations without keeping a computer on. What a pity. Indeed, for my use, a retired phone on a stand probably serves better because it will play all stations.
    Like you I mostly just stream stations via MySB.com. Sadly MySB.com lacking https support means diminishing returns for playable streams, but there are still many streams available with no LMS or computer. Try out the Radionomy and ShoutCast apps on MySB.com which delivers thousands of MySB.com http streams covering any genre out there.

    ShoutCast even has a bitrate filter feature on MySB.com (thank you Michael Harger) so you can filter out the lower quality streams. Mine is set to 192k so any ShoutCast menu selections or searches only show me streams of 192k or greater (192k thru 320k), and I am presented with hundreds of selections to choose from.

    It's not going to make your MySB.com usage as valuable as it used to be. Just offering some MySB.com usage ideas to lesson the pain a bit and still get some value out of your SB hardware players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toby10 View Post
    Like you I mostly just stream stations via MySB.com. Sadly MySB.com lacking https support means diminishing returns for playable streams, but there are still many streams available with no LMS or computer. Try out the Radionomy and ShoutCast apps on MySB.com which delivers thousands of MySB.com http streams covering any genre out there.

    ShoutCast even has a bitrate filter feature on MySB.com (thank you Michael Harger) so you can filter out the lower quality streams. Mine is set to 192k so any ShoutCast menu selections or searches only show me streams of 192k or greater (192k thru 320k), and I am presented with hundreds of selections to choose from.

    It's not going to make your MySB.com usage as valuable as it used to be. Just offering some MySB.com usage ideas to lesson the pain a bit and still get some value out of your SB hardware players.
    +1

    A great suggestion for the OP. I had forgotten about the bitrate filter on shoutcast. I remember using it in the past, but had forgotten all about it and occasionally wondered "where was that?" Thank you for the reminder!

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    A pi or a similar is the way to go - all over a better service.


    Strange.
    Changing https to http is the first thing I tried and the http URLs didn't play for me. There can be other factors in the mix which can affect http/https support such as country and CDN.

    I tried:
    The yoga chill URLs I found are
    https://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/s...kAAC-YogaChill
    https://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/s...8mp3-YogaChill
    So I tried but they didn't play.
    http://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/se...kAAC-YogaChill
    http://radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027/se...8mp3-YogaChill

    I thought perhaps the non "https" URL might have a different non "secure" name so another vip-radios URL I tried:
    https://radio2.vip-radios.fm:18039/s...-BaySmoothJazz
    vs.
    http://radio2.vip-radios.fm:18039/st...-BaySmoothJazz

    Again the "http" didn't play.


    Interesting. The https stream I extracted from the radio website has "stream" instead of "secure" in it. The http link is the same just without the "s". My stream never plays commercials while I click your Yoga Chill links, I hear ads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verycd View Post
    Interesting. The https stream I extracted from the radio website has "stream" instead of "secure" in it. The http link is the same just without the "s". My stream never plays commercials while I click your Yoga Chill links, I hear ads.
    vip-radio.fm URL naming does not follow a consistent pattern - the Yoga https URL has "secure" but the BaySmoothJazz https URL has "stream".

    Changing the name in the URLs from "secure" to "stream" does not make the "http" URLS playable for me.

    There is definitely another factor in play - maybe a CDN issue which can be region specific. The presence of ads indicates means a different delivery mechanism and more so if the ads inserted have been tailored to the listeners region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verycd View Post
    Interesting. The https stream I extracted from the radio website has "stream" instead of "secure" in it. The http link is the same just without the "s". My stream never plays commercials while I click your Yoga Chill links, I hear ads.
    If you're curious, it would be interesting to see what response you get the to the following URL - you can enter in a browser such as Chrome or Firefox. It shows the URL a browser will use for station 94 - Yoga Chill .
    https://www.vip-radios.fm/wp-admin/a...nfo&station=94

    The response I get is
    Code:
    {"name":"Yoga Chill","stream_url":"https:\/\/radio4.vip-radios.fm:18027\/stream-128kmp3-YogaChill","cover":"http:\/\/www.vip-radios.fm\/wp-content\/uploads\/fly-images\/95\/Logo-YogaChill-166x166-c.jpg","favorite":0}

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