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    In ceiling setup with squeezeamp

    This community has been very helpful for quite some time (I was using squeezeboxen long before logitech appeared) and for that I've been very greatful.

    We are having some work done in our kitchen, and I'm using this opportunity to put in ceiling mounted speakers. It is behind a wall from the main setup so sound gets lost from the main system, particularly with the sounds of food preparation. The goal is not high fidelity, but the chance to listen to music, news, podcasts, etc. while using the kitchen. Quick on and off would facilitate use.

    Current plans that I would like to bounce off the assembled wisdom here would be to use a squeezeamp to drive two Polk RCi 80's ceiling speakers. Currently this is powered by an older laptop 16v power supply

    So the questions I have surround how this should be installed?
    1) What is the best way to power the squeezeamp?
    2) should the squeezeamp and/or power supply be enclosed somehow?
    3) I am planing on using an iphone with a material skin to control this one (of probably 6 squeeze devices). Are there any alternatives (in wall panel, etc.) that I should be considering

    Alternately, are there good sites that make this simple? Most of what I find through google assume a large home theater setup. My goal is much more minimalist.

    Thanks you all in advance

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    I've been thinking in the same direction and for control I'm leaning towards a amazone fire 7" tablet running the material APK of F-Droid.
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    When we had the kitchen redone I had the builders put in a couple of ceiling speakers and asked them to run some cable in the void and then come out at the back of a shelf and put a double power supply near the shelf.

    They actually ran spare electricity cable as the speaker cable ... hopefully the next people in the house won't be confused by it!

    This means that the SquezeAMP in its plastic case is readily available on the shelf - but hidden behind something.

    In my case, the "something" is a Joggler - which is used as a Squeezebox controller.
    Prior to the SqueezeAMP it was the Joggler that was the player as well and I plugged its 3.5mm socket into a small amp.

    I have another Joggler in the room as another controller so that we do not have to move far to control things - oh and there is a real Squeezebox Controller in there as well between 2 chairs so that we do not even have to get up to control things.
    Of course, it could all be controlled from a phone but this way is generally faster and convenient for all.

    One change I need to make is to put more audio insulation above one of the speakers because it is easily heard in the room above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwin2006 View Post
    I've been thinking in the same direction and for control I'm leaning towards a amazone fire 7" tablet running the material APK of F-Droid.

    But I think my major question also involves how to power the squeezeamp? How can one get the 120 VAC power to the 12 or 16 volt DC needed?

    Thanks for the thoughts.

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    Iĺve put some ceiling speakers into 2 bathrooms.

    Bathroom 1 has its speakers wired to a Bluetooth amp in the loft. There is an Amazon Echo Flex plugged in on the landing below. This is used by SWMBO. Sound is OK and I can use it with LMS via iPeng and BT if required but I donĺt.

    The en-suite also has in ceiling speakers (far higher quality KEFs) and is wired back to the Zone 2 output on an AVR in my bedroom which has an SB Touch as one of its inputs. I use this!
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    Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericj View Post
    But I think my major question also involves how to power the squeezeamp? How can one get the 120 VAC power to the 12 or 16 volt DC needed?

    Thanks for the thoughts.
    I'm not sure I fully understand. The SqueezeAMP can take anything from 5V (not recommended) to 20V, ideally 12V. You can run this supply using normal cables, as you said you're not looking for an audiophile-type system (which is not SqueezeAMP anyway). Now, I would rather run the speaker cables to a cabinet, but that's really up to you. If the SqueezeAMP is "hidden", put it in a box like the acrylic one, it's better for heat & safety. But it should still remain accessible with reasonable efforts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by philippe_44 View Post
    I'm not sure I fully understand. The SqueezeAMP can take anything from 5V (not recommended) to 20V, ideally 12V. You can run this supply using normal cables, as you said you're not looking for an audiophile-type system (which is not SqueezeAMP anyway). Now, I would rather run the speaker cables to a cabinet, but that's really up to you. If the SqueezeAMP is "hidden", put it in a box like the acrylic one, it's better for heat & safety. But it should still remain accessible with reasonable efforts.
    Sorry if I was not clear. It how to get AC to the power supply while keeping it hidden behind walls, if possible. I use the 16V since I will be using the amp, but you are right, 12v will do. But even this has been very helpful. Thanks.

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