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  1. #11
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    This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx).

    The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having to juggle multiple remote controls (TV, amplifier, multimedia player ...) and it allows, with a little work, to multiply the applications on a single Raspberry Pi (music, video, retrogaming ...).

    To my knowledge, there is no equivalent. (In France, it is already impossible to buy it. The stocks already seem empty.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franck@ View Post
    This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx).
    I thought it was only bad news when one breaks and you cannot get a new one - until then there is no change ... and Logitech even saying that they will still add IR codes for new devices that have to be controlled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    I thought it was only bad news when one breaks and you cannot get a new one - until then there is no change ... and Logitech even saying that they will still add IR codes for new devices that have to be controlled.
    Yes, at this moment nothing changes: it still works. But some members of my family (young children) are not very careful and have to renew their remote controls regularly. And that will quickly become annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franck@ View Post
    This is very, very bad news! All the multimedia systems of my family and friends are controlled by these remote controls (Harmony 6xx).

    The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having to juggle multiple remote controls (TV, amplifier, multimedia player ...) and it allows, with a little work, to multiply the applications on a single Raspberry Pi (music, video, retrogaming ...).

    To my knowledge, there is no equivalent. (In France, it is already impossible to buy it. The stocks already seem empty.)
    Just buy some backups from now before they’re sold out. (And hide the backups from the kids )

    Support will continue.
    “ We expect no impact to our customers by this announcement. We plan to support our Harmony community and new Harmony customers, which includes access to our software and apps to set up and manage your remotes. We also plan to continue to update the platform and add devices to our Harmony database. Customer and warranty support will continue to be offered.”

    Edit: Didn’t notice you said they’re already sold out in France. Try eBay.
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    One-for-All / JP1 a (better..?) option?

    Maybe a lone dissenting voice, but I never really got on with my Harmony remote. After struggling to get it working in the way I wanted I ended up buying some One-for-All (UIC) remotes which can be very flexibly re-programmed / hacked using a home made adaptor and "JP1" software. [To be honest I've no idea whether you can still buy the (unofficially) programmable types - see update] - I bought several end-of-line One for All 5's at ú15 / piece some years back, and although they tend to die after a few year's hard use (or children playing with the battery cover ) my stock is still going, but the JP1 programming site still seems to be alive and active.

    Although at first sight they're far less sophisticated (and far less expensive) than the Harmony range I've never found any IR device I couldn't control with a JP1-hacked OFA remote. Their only snag is a tendancy to run out of memory if you try to get too clever, but kept simple they work very well.

    More JP1 details HERE

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    UPDATE - In the UK the One-for-All "Contour 8" is available for ú15, controls up to eight devices and is JP1-programmable. May buy a couple as the design looks a bit better than my old OFA-5's
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    Another vote for the One-For-All remotes. I've never owned or used a Harmony, so I don't know what I'm missing, but I have a couple of One-For-All 8's which work very well. They have a learning function, and the JP1 software allows me to backup/clone/restore a fully configured remote very quickly. And they're 'disposably' cheap - currently ú9 on Amazon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franck@ View Post
    The creation of "activities" is great and essential. This avoids having to juggle multiple remote controls
    Exactly! My Harmony controls TV, AVR, satellite receiver, Squeezebox and an HTPC running Kodi. Aboslutely seamless.
    Extra comfort points for using RF between remote and Hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by florca View Post
    I never really got on with my Harmony remote. After struggling to get it working in the way I wanted I ended up buying some One-for-All (UIC) remotes which can be very flexibly re-programmed / hacked using a home made adaptor and "JP1" software. To be honest I've no idea whether you can still buy the (unofficially) programmable types - I bought several end-of-line One for All 5's at ú15 / piece some years back, and although they tend to die after a few year's hard use (or children playing with the battery cover ) my stock is still going, but the JP1 programming site still seems to be alive and active.

    Although at first sight they're far less sophisticated (and far less expensive) than the Harmony range I've never found any IR device I couldn't control with a JP1-hacked OFA remote. Their only snag is a tendancy to run out of memory if you try to get too clever, but kept simple they work very well.
    Yet another vote for JP1/One-For-All. I have found them to be very durable -- models like the URC-8820 that I've been using, anyway. It takes years for the button text to start to wear off, and even then the buttons keep working. I own one URC that still works fine even though it got mangled by a foster dog who mistook it for a chew toy.

    I agree, the JP1 community still seems healthy. Just a few months ago I needed to reporgram my main URC for a new DVD player. I dreaded the prospect of having to reinstall and relearn the RemoteMaster and IR applications, but found that the desktop repogramming software had been improved and simplified. My old .ir remote config backups worked fine and reprogramming was easier than before.

    BTW, web searches in decent years revealed that apparently many US cable TV companies are offering customers remote controls that are JP1-capable, and those often sell for little on eBay.

    We gave a Harmony to my aged father-in-law (first a 650, now a 655), as it's much easier to use than the mess of remotes he ended up with after the cable TV box was added to his kit even after the cable guy programmed their universal remote. I love the "try to fix" option, and the ability to switch the color screen soft buttons to "device" mode. So much nicer than trying to remember where you remapped a specific orginal button like Night Mode. Those Harmony remotes haven't held up as well -- after a couple years some of the buttons become unreliable. I had the same problem with my personal Harmony remotes --even ones that saw infrequent use!-- and always thought that Harmony would be truly great if they could improve their hardware. (They reminded me a lot of 20th century Sony gear -- good design, nice programming, but inadequate quality on the switches and buttons.)

    Still, yesterday I ordered a spare 655 as a backup for my father-in-law. Thank you, Tony T, for posting!

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    JP1 - exactly!

    I also have two Harmony units, but continue to prefer the JP1 remotes, the 8820 cited above was/is really the most perfect remote in the hand, almost as good as the TIVO remotes. But 1000% more useful. The RCA RCRP05BR and the Inteset 4 in 1 are also excellent. I even have a few URC-6131s, personally upgraded by Rob, still in daily use.

    This makes me a little worried about Logitech, but it's hard to be too critical because of the support they've allowed through/by Michael. Thank you!

    What makes me worried is that Roku followed a similar path with the fabulous SoundBridge streamers and Radio. One day: no help, no forum, no firmware updates on line, no nothing!

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    Where Harmony really excels for us, is when we have things that don't really talk to each other. For instance, we have a Harmony Hub control TV, Bluray and a Mu-so. The Mu-so is connected to the TV for sound. Because our TV doesn't communicate well over HDMI ARC, we have Harmony control the connection, so that when the TV is turned on (on the Harmony remote), it pauses the Roon zone (using the Deep Harmony extension) where the Mu-so partakes to avoid having it continue playing somewhere else in the house. Alas, now that we have ditched Roon and gone back to LMS, this particular feature has become defunct :-).

    There aren't any other universal remotes that I know of, that supports this. I was hoping a bit to see the Yio Remote take off, but I think it was too expensive and too complicated for people to build. That would probably have worked too.
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