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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrypg View Post
    Aside from being able to skip the "DAC Hat", do you have any suggestions in terms of what model and amount of RAM I would need if I decide to go the Raspberry Pi route? Also, will a case that traps heat passively (versus adding a fan, etc.) be okay if all I'm going to do is stream music?
    I am using a Pi4 with 4Gb RAM (though I think there are technical reasons why anything over 2Gb makes no difference). I'm using an Argon Neo case, which is a passive cooling case. I find the temperature of the Pi remains pretty constant, even while actively scanning. The cpu is running at around 42 degrees C. I run this 24/7, and I set it up back in December.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Bob View Post
    I am using a Pi4 with 4Gb RAM (though I think there are technical reasons why anything over 2Gb makes no difference). I'm using an Argon Neo case, which is a passive cooling case. I find the temperature of the Pi remains pretty constant, even while actively scanning. The cpu is running at around 42 degrees C. I run this 24/7, and I set it up back in December.

    Robert
    My new pi4 with 4Gb runs warmer at about 55C. It's in the Rpi plastic case that came with the kit but without the lid, sitting on an open shelf with normal room temps. This would seem to be equivalent to being "caseless", so I wonder why your cpu is running at only 42C?
    I'm not concerned about running at 55C, but am curious as to the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfo View Post
    My new pi4 with 4Gb runs warmer at about 55C. It's in the Rpi plastic case that came with the kit but without the lid, sitting on an open shelf with normal room temps. This would seem to be equivalent to being "caseless", so I wonder why your cpu is running at only 42C?
    I'm not concerned about running at 55C, but am curious as to the difference.
    The Neo case has an aluminium lid that acts as a passive heatsink, maybe that's the difference. The Pi sits on top of a QNAP NAS with air circulating freely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy Bob View Post
    I am using a Pi4 with 4Gb RAM (though I think there are technical reasons why anything over 2Gb makes no difference). I'm using an Argon Neo case, which is a passive cooling case. I find the temperature of the Pi remains pretty constant, even while actively scanning. The cpu is running at around 42 degrees C. I run this 24/7, and I set it up back in December.

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    +1 for any of the Argon or Flirc aluminium cases. I'm using an Argon one case ATM, runs 24/7, 41░C no fan installed. The so called "official" plastic case IMO is unfit for purpose.
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    If you want to save a bit of money then the older RPi models do work well as an LMS server - especially if you are not planning to manage a large local library.
    I still run one on a RPI1 which is mainly used to stream from internet radio and it servers 4 players 2 of which are in a sync group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    If you want to save a bit of money then the older RPi models do work well as an LMS server - especially if you are not planning to manage a large local library.
    I still run one on a RPI1 which is mainly used to stream from internet radio and it servers 4 players 2 of which are in a sync group.
    It's been a while since I had LMS on RPi1b but I wouldn't recommend it. It may be OK for internet radio but for any medium size + library or streaming services (like Spotty/ Spotify Connect) I don't think its fast enough. Probably Rpi3b or Rpi3b+ would be better if you want to save money and I guess will cost not significantly more then Rpi1.
    TBH Not sure how much you will save from buying Rpi4 though.. Someone suggested on other thread "Odroid" devices which are apparently better then Rpi.. ?
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    Raspberry Pi streaming question - newbie

    I wasn't suggesting buying a 1b (are they still for sale?) I was simply explaining that it works pretty well on the old slow stuff so will be fine on newer faster models.
    My regular LMS with large local library is on a 3 and it works well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    I wasn't suggesting buying a 1b (are they still for sale?) I was simply explaining that it works pretty well on the old slow stuff so will be fine on newer faster models.
    My regular LMS with large local library is on a 3 and it works well.
    Yep.. eBay.co.uk RPi1b+ @ ú18.99, where RPi3b ú24.99. Both sold as brand new.. I guess lot cheaper 2nd hand with but of luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfo View Post
    My new pi4 with 4Gb runs warmer at about 55C. It's in the Rpi plastic case that came with the kit but without the lid, sitting on an open shelf with normal room temps. This would seem to be equivalent to being "caseless", so I wonder why your cpu is running at only 42C?
    I'm not concerned about running at 55C, but am curious as to the difference.

    Place the case (still open) on its side (gpio pins down) that will drop a few degrees off the heat

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidstypike View Post
    +1 for any of the Argon or Flirc aluminium cases. I'm using an Argon one case ATM, runs 24/7, 41░C no fan installed. The so called "official" plastic case IMO is unfit for purpose.
    Interesting. I can't see how a closed aluminum case would dissipate heat better than having the cpu with the small heatsink attached exposed to the ambient temp of about 23C?

    A difference of 41C to 55C is substantial.

    By comparison, my 3B+ with a DAC hat in an enclosed plastic case runs about 38C.
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