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    Finally, ready to fire up my "new" Touch

    Hoping to fire up a new PC (so in need of LMS) and my "new" 10 year old Touch (it was still in the box) tomorrow. It appears that it would be best to use LMS 8.0 (or higher, if there is a higher) in order to avoid firmware issues. If anyone can confirm that or offer any other recommendations it would be much appreciated. I have not been listening to music nor using my squeezeboxen much at all during the last four-plus years but am looking forward to getting my groove back. I have a large personal collection and also (used to) use mysqueezebox.com. I presume it is still viable. If not, please advise. Thank you.

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    MySB.com is alive and well...... but it's abilities are becoming diminished as time rolls on. Much like myself. :-)
    More streams and stations are migrating to https which MySb.com cannot play (but if you use LMS to connect to MySB.com this is not an issue). Also a number of services previously on MySB.com are no longer available. LMS offers some streaming options via LMS plugins that MySB.com cannot such as Spotify and RadioNet (free).

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    Thank you for the kind reply,

    I am a little confused (not for the first time) about which MySb.com cannot play (but if you use LMS to connect to MySB.com this is not an issue. If you have time, perhaps you might elaborate ... . Thanks much.
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    mysqueezebox.com is, in essence, a Logitech hosted version of LMS.
    It can be connected to directly by Squeezebox devices.

    It is able to do a few things that a local-to-you LMS cannot do - by the nature of portions of that version being closed source - for example it can authenticate with some 3rd-party services or use APIs that have been made available to Logitech but are not available to the general public.

    One big thing that it does not do is "proxy" the streams that are played on your devices. That would generate too much traffic on their infrastructure and would also probably have issues with some broadcasters since they would see all of their listenership coming from a single (in reality a small set) of IP addresses.
    So the stream details are passed to the Squeezebox player and it plays them itself.

    This then brings us to the next issue ... the software and hardware in your Squeezebox is old. It comes from an era when no-one thought that broadcasters would mandate the use of https to play their stuff.
    So there are various techniques used to get around that problem.
    One is to run LMS on your own LAN because it is able to act as a proxy for its local Squeezeboxes (the broadcaster would see your public IP address whether your LMS is accessing the stream or your player is so it resolves that issue for them).
    Then your LMS can perform the https work and extract the content and pass it using http (or whatever) to your local player.

    There are a lot of other benefits to having your own local LMS - but it is a server application so you need to have something available to run it and it needs to be running when you need to listen via it (so running it from a laptop that you switch off in the evening is probably not a good idea unless you do not intend to listen via your local LMS at that time). The good news is that since it is supporting only a small number of local users it does not need to be as powerful as mysqueezebox.com and since the software is available on a lot of different devices then you have considerable choice when picking a server.
    A lot of people are using a Raspberry Pi to run it because it is low cost, small and uses so little power that leaving it on 24/7 is not an issue.

    However, you become the system admin person.
    The good news is that there is a small but loyal group of people who have used this stuff for a long time and give up their time to help others keep their stuff running.
    They tend to visit here more than once a day. Some extend the LMS capabilities and others make new hardware and another small group have even managed to update the core software on Squeezebox Touch and Controller.
    Paul Webster
    http://dabdig.blogspot.com
    Author of "Now Playing" plugins covering Radio France (FIP etc), PlanetRadio (Bauer - Kiss, Absolute, Scala, JazzFM etc), KCRW, Supla Finland, ABC Australia, CBC/Radio-Canada and RTE Ireland

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