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    Tagging of albums with the same name but different artists?

    Hello!

    I want to know how the best possibilty is to tag albums with the same name but different artists like:
    "Reveal", which is available from "Fischer-Z" and from "R.E.M." or
    "Retro" from "New Order" or "Wingenfelder".

    Until now I named the album:
    Reveal (Fischer-Z) and the other one
    Reveal (R.E.M.)
    or
    Retro (New Order)
    Retro (Wingenfelder)

    What are your solutions for such albums with the same name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsten_h View Post
    Hello!

    I want to know how the best possibilty is to tag albums with the same name but different artists like:
    "Reveal", which is available from "Fischer-Z" and from "R.E.M." or
    "Retro" from "New Order" or "Wingenfelder".

    Until now I named the album:
    Reveal (Fischer-Z) and the other one
    Reveal (R.E.M.)
    or
    Retro (New Order)
    Retro (Wingenfelder)

    What are your solutions for such albums with the same name?
    Is there an issue with albums having the same name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Is there an issue with albums having the same name?
    The problem is not mainly LMS. I manage the music on my Mac with the Music program from Apple and copy it 1:1 to the LMS piCorePlayer.
    There I have a list of all albums and all albums with the same name have only one entry. And when I have them on my iPhone there is the same problem.

    I don't know what happens when I order the albums only by album in LMS. Are there different entries for every artist if the album names are the same?
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsten_h View Post
    Hello!

    I want to know how the best possibilty is to tag albums with the same name but different artists like:
    "Reveal", which is available from "Fischer-Z" and from "R.E.M." or
    "Retro" from "New Order" or "Wingenfelder".

    Until now I named the album:
    Reveal (Fischer-Z) and the other one
    Reveal (R.E.M.)
    or
    Retro (New Order)
    Retro (Wingenfelder)

    What are your solutions for such albums with the same name?
    If you have a problem with this it is probably because you are using a flat folder structure ie

    MUSIC / Track 1 from Reveal by REM
    MUSIC / Track 2 from Reveal by REM
    MUSIC / Track 1 from Reveal by Fischer-Z

    If you use
    MUSIC
    - REM
    - / Reveal / Tracks
    - Fischer-Z
    -/ Reveal / Tracks

    LMS will see these as different albums and you just need to tag the album name as Reveal with the correct album artist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsten_h View Post
    The problem is not mainly LMS. I manage the music on my Mac with the Music program from Apple and copy it 1:1 to the LMS piCorePlayer.
    There I have a list of all albums and all albums with the same name have only one entry. And when I have them on my iPhone there is the same problem.

    I don't know what happens when I order the albums only by album in LMS. Are there different entries for every artist if the album names are the same?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Yes
    Also when you order them by "Album" only:
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    I don't have a problem with separate folders - Artist/Album/Tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
    If you have a problem with this it is probably because you are using a flat folder structure
    The folder structure is 1:1 the one Music/iTunes is using, so:
    music/artist/album/(xx-)yy-title.zzz

    But that should be totally have no matter as the tags are used for sorting.

    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
    LMS will see these as different albums and you just need to tag the album name as Reveal with the correct album artist.
    Yes, LMS will make it so, but Music/iPhone not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carsten_h View Post
    The folder structure is 1:1 the one Music/iTunes is using, so:
    music/artist/album/(xx-)yy-title.zzz

    But that should be totally have no matter as the tags are used for sorting.



    Yes, LMS will make it so, but Music/iPhone not.
    I use mp3tag to tag albums as I want them, no album gets into my library else.

    Works fine for all my requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carsten_h View Post
    Also when you order them by "Album" only:
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    The album view was sorted by "album" only. Seems to be an Apple issue.

    If Apple allow other music apps I would try one of those.

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