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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    With a USB DAC you don't even need the HAT.

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    Yeah, but I heard that even though on rpi4 the power supply for the USB is separate from the WiFi and RJ45-output, it still has some issues wrt. electrical noise.
    But you don't experience any?
    Sometimes it is hard to know if a theoretical issue can be heard in reality.
    Perhaps for my next streamer I will go with your simpler and cheaper solution.

    I am curious to know a little more about your setup: DAC, amp., speakers and what SW so you run on the Pi?
    Perhaps we can do PM slartibartfast since it seems this is drifting off topic for the thread (sorry).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tuc View Post
    Yeah, but I heard that even though on rpi4 the power supply for the USB is separate from the WiFi and RJ45-output, it still has some issues wrt. electrical noise.
    But you don't experience any?
    Sometimes it is hard to know if a theoretical issue can be heard in reality.
    Perhaps for my next streamer I will go with your simpler and cheaper solution.

    I am curious to know a little more about your setup: DAC, amp., speakers and what SW so you run on the Pi?
    Perhaps we can do PM slartibartfast since it seems this is drifting off topic for the thread (sorry).
    Archimago did some tests
    http://archimago.blogspot.com/2017/0...s-usb.html?m=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuc View Post
    Sounds good.
    I would love if they would leave out the D/A-converter and make spdif-out instead. This could be even cheaper to produce.
    Very simple to slap on a S/PDIF output. Just use one of the GPIOs available at the respective header and add two resistors, a cap and an rca-socket.

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    (Taken from Figure 28 here.)

    The rest is config.

    Pro tip: 220 and 100 Ohms work, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElFishi View Post
    Very simple to slap on a S/PDIF output. Just use one of the GPIOs available at the respective header and add two resistors, a cap and an rca-socket.

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    (Taken from Figure 28 here.)

    The rest is config.

    Pro tip: 220 and 100 Ohms work, too.
    Simple electrically but not so simple mechanically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Simple electrically but not so simple mechanically.
    I admit my remark was OT...

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    If you a re looking for non-DIY streamer how about a microRendu.

    https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/c...cts/microrendu

    This is a totally plug-and-play Ethernet to USB streamer the supports Squeezebox and is also a Roon Ready player.
    rip, tag, get cover artů All you do is insert the CD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by agillis View Post
    If you a re looking for non-DIY streamer how about a microRendu.

    https://www.smallgreencomputer.com/c...cts/microrendu

    This is a totally plug-and-play Ethernet to USB streamer the supports Squeezebox and is also a Roon Ready player.
    The OP was after a streamer and DAC for up to $400. The Microrendu is $500 with a power supply and no DAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    The OP was after a streamer and DAC for up to $400. The Microrendu is $500 with a power supply and no DAC.
    I looked for suggestion in the 400 euro price range that BETTERS the SBT,
    If there's smth (a combo) that evidently removes a wet blanket or two from the soundstage at 700-1100 euros, why not? I'll mount my jaw drop detector and listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombie View Post
    I looked for suggestion in the 400 euro price range that BETTERS the SBT,
    If there's smth (a combo) that evidently removes a wet blanket or two from the soundstage at 700-1100 euros, why not? I'll mount my jaw drop detector and listen.
    True but you might spend a long time looking

    I think people find it difficult to believe that a Raspberry Pi is indistinguishable from a "high end" streamer in a blind test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    True but you might spend a long time looking

    I think people find it difficult to believe that a Raspberry Pi is indistinguishable from a "high end" streamer in a blind test.

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    I agree. The DAC is the place to spend the money not the digital delivery mechanism.

    If you asked anyone which computer sounds better - a Mac or a PC - theyĺd mostly say it depends on the sound card / DAC and speakers. Which is exactly the point, the computer in use makes no difference assuming both are working properly. However an Audiofool will spend hours pontificating that one is better than the other - probably the Mac.
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