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    As bpa says, it's https in the default skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    There are two levels of m3u - each with a http URL. The playable https URL is in 2nd level of m3u.

    From the More menu - it shows what was the eventual URL that is playing.

    When stream is playing. On Classic WebUI click the M (more) icon against the playing station on RHS - it will open up Song Info on LHS - the URL is visible,

    I think URL can also be seen on other UIs (not Material) through More menu.
    I was using Material skin so that would explain it

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    I was using Material skin so that would explain it
    Just like saving Favorites, the inconsistencies between UIs adds to the fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    Your URL works for me. I think you need to find out how she is accessing it. Is she using Logitech Media Server? Maybe direct her to this forum.
    It plays in the US.

    JakeUK, just in case you aren't familiar with squeezebox and LMS, what bpa and slartibartfast are referring to, a squeezebox device (radio, boom, touch, etc) can be setup to stream either directly from the internet (mysqueezebox.com), or through a server that can be setup on a separate "computer" (Windows, Mac, Raspberry Pi, server, etc.) which runs "LMS".

    Chances are if she is using, say a radio "stand alone" to just listen to internet stations (not her own music library), she is using mysqueezebox.com.

    As bpa mentioned, if the stream is https, it will not play on mysqueezebox.com (only http streams can be played). It should play on LMS unless their are regional restrictions. Many stations have recently changed from http to https which might explain why it used to work.

    Further complicating it is you can run a touch (only) on LMS without a separate server, it runs on the touch (called tinyLMS) and this also will not stream https.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slartibartfast View Post
    It seems to be on TuneIn but is not available in my region (UK). Is it based outside the UK? TuneIn have recently prevented access to all non UK stations so if your listener is in the UK that could be the reason. She can still add the station manually and save it as a favourite.
    The station streams from the USA. And yes, it is geoblocked on Tunein in the UK due to copyright restrictions. It should be fine in the USA though, where this particular listener is based.

    Quote Originally Posted by Man in a van View Post
    It must redirect

    It does start to play on mysqueezebox.com but then stops,
    It does redirect. First to http://radiocoalition.org/listen/smoothjazz247.m3u, which in turn redirects to https://ais-sa2.cdnstream1.com/b75154_128mp3

    This seems to work for most listings, and I presume must have worked for my listener, up until recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeUK View Post
    The station streams from the USA. And yes, it is geoblocked on Tunein in the UK due to copyright restrictions. It should be fine in the USA though, where this particular listener is based.



    It does redirect. First to http://radiocoalition.org/listen/smoothjazz247.m3u, which in turn redirects to https://ais-sa2.cdnstream1.com/b75154_128mp3

    This seems to work for most listings, and I presume must have worked for my listener, up until recently.
    I tested both urls here in the US, they both play fine. As already mentioned, your listener is probably streaming from mysqueezebox.com (or even a touch using TinyLMS) neither of which support https streams. It makes sense that this is a "recent" change. I have a friend that recently "lost" stations, and he is using tinyLMS and it's due to the stream changing over (actually redirecting) to a https stream.

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    "and it doesn't sound like the listener is technically able to have added it manually so I'm wondering where the listing would have come from"

    Yes, we can list anything on LMS (the server) or add it as a Favorite to the squeezebox.com listing. For example, I have one station with all 5 of their "listen here" links, as Favorites, and named for the SB device that uses that stream (Receiver vs Boom vs Radio) because they have different decoder abilities.

    She might have found your stream from a search, and then added it using LMS or web log in. Or, if she has the Radio and set it as a Preset button, that would add it to here Favorites list without her even knowing it. She can provide that link path to you for diagnosis.
    Last edited by Bassman; 2021-01-17 at 21:06.

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    Many thanks guys, you've been very helpful. I'm inclined to go with the "https" issue, which might also explain other problems from various platforms. I have opened a ticket with my streamers tech support to see if they have a work around.

    FYI, the listener came back with details about their kit. It's a Logitech UE Smart radio model 930-000136. Still a bit of a mystery how she arrived at the link. The only way I know for the station to be on there would be in amongst the Tunein listings. But they should still work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeUK View Post
    Many thanks guys, you've been very helpful. I'm inclined to go with the "https" issue, which might also explain other problems from various platforms. I have opened a ticket with my streamers tech support to see if they have a work around.

    FYI, the listener came back with details about their kit. It's a Logitech UE Smart radio model 930-000136. Still a bit of a mystery how she arrived at the link. The only way I know for the station to be on there would be in amongst the Tunein listings. But they should still work fine.
    A few years ago Apple made a push to require internet radio stream to have an HTTPS url and it is better for security. However, if your station become https ONLY you will be locking out not only Logitech UE users but a whole lot of older internet radios (e.g. Roberts, Noxon etc) users.

    Your station could still support at least one http URL to maintain listeners with older hardware - perhaps as a second station in the m3u URL so that when 1st HTTPS URL fails to play, the second station in list (a HTTP url) will be tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    A few years ago Apple made a push to require internet radio stream to have an HTTPS url and it is better for security. However, if your station become https ONLY you will be locking out not only Logitech UE users but a whole lot of older internet radios (e.g. Roberts, Noxon etc) users.

    Your station could still support at least one http URL to maintain listeners with older hardware - perhaps as a second station in the m3u URL so that when 1st HTTPS URL fails to play, the second station in list (a HTTP url) will be tried.
    Yes I'm hoping that the tech bods can set up something like that.

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