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  1. #11
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    Code:
    * seed: /data/music/Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi/03 - Cloudscape.flac
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+
    | file                                                                                         |   danceable |   aggressive |   electronic |   acoustic |   happy |   party |   relaxed |   sad |   dark |   tonal |   voice |   bpm |
    |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------|
    | /data/music/Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi/03 - Cloudscape.flac                                |       0.040 |        0.003 |        0.698 |      0.286 |   0.301 |   0.026 |     0.995 | 0.331 |  0.984 |   0.039 |   0.003 |   134 |
    | /data/music/Max Richter - The Blue Notebooks/02 - On The Nature Of Daylight.flac             |       0.338 |        0.085 |        0.629 |      0.555 |   0.034 |   0.048 |     0.988 | 0.428 |  0.971 |   0.000 |   0.000 |   123 |
    | /data/music/The Dead Texan - The Dead Texan/08 - Girth Rides A (Horse) +.mp3                 |       0.007 |        0.014 |        0.173 |      0.960 |   0.436 |   0.016 |     0.983 | 0.844 |  0.902 |   0.992 |   0.000 |   135 |
    | /data/music/The Dead Texan - The Dead Texan/02 - Glen's Goo.mp3                              |       0.003 |        0.061 |        0.351 |      0.601 |   0.105 |   0.016 |     0.967 | 0.745 |  0.914 |   0.950 |   0.000 |   129 |
    | /data/music/SPK - Zamia Lehmanni (Songs Of Byzantine Flowers)/05 - In Flagrante Delicto.flac |       0.006 |        0.161 |        0.396 |      0.990 |   0.019 |   0.003 |     1.000 | 0.500 |  0.991 |   0.681 |   0.003 |   114 |
    | /data/music/Rachel's - The Sea And The Bells/04 - Lloyd's Register.flac                      |       0.027 |        0.015 |        0.740 |      0.832 |   0.271 |   0.015 |     0.997 | 0.377 |  0.915 |   0.992 |   0.000 |   154 |
    | /data/music/Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi OST/03 - Clouds.flac                                |       0.355 |        0.000 |        0.728 |      0.430 |   0.735 |   0.240 |     0.874 | 0.500 |  0.307 |   0.506 |   0.000 |   132 |
    | /data/music/Amber Asylum - Frozen in Amber/04 - Heckle and Jeckle.flac                       |       0.279 |        0.080 |        0.789 |      0.310 |   0.000 |   0.080 |     0.909 | 0.436 |  0.977 |   0.005 |   0.000 |   147 |
    | /data/music/Rachels - Handwriting/05 - Seratonin.mp3                                         |       0.009 |        0.094 |        0.267 |      0.991 |   0.102 |   0.002 |     0.972 | 0.756 |  0.983 |   0.955 |   0.000 |   148 |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+
    *** stats
    +--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+
    | func   |   danceable |   aggressive |   electronic |   acoustic |   happy |   party |   relaxed |   sad |   dark |   tonal |   voice |     bpm |
    |--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------|
    | min    |       0.003 |        0.000 |        0.173 |      0.310 |   0.000 |   0.002 |     0.874 | 0.377 |  0.307 |   0.000 |   0.000 | 114.000 |
    | max    |       0.355 |        0.161 |        0.789 |      0.991 |   0.735 |   0.240 |     1.000 | 0.844 |  0.991 |   0.992 |   0.003 | 154.000 |
    | mean   |       0.128 |        0.064 |        0.509 |      0.709 |   0.213 |   0.052 |     0.961 | 0.573 |  0.870 |   0.635 |   0.000 | 135.250 |
    | median |       0.018 |        0.070 |        0.513 |      0.717 |   0.103 |   0.016 |     0.978 | 0.500 |  0.943 |   0.816 |   0.000 | 133.500 |
    +--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+
    *** delta (track - seed track)
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+
    | file                                                                                         |   danceable |   aggressive |   electronic |   acoustic |   happy |   party |   relaxed |   sad |   dark |   tonal |   voice |   bpm |
    |----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------|
    | /data/music/Max Richter - The Blue Notebooks/02 - On The Nature Of Daylight.flac             |       0.297 |        0.082 |       -0.068 |      0.269 |  -0.267 |   0.023 |    -0.007 | 0.097 | -0.013 |  -0.039 |  -0.003 |   -11 |
    | /data/music/The Dead Texan - The Dead Texan/08 - Girth Rides A (Horse) +.mp3                 |      -0.033 |        0.011 |       -0.525 |      0.674 |   0.135 |  -0.010 |    -0.012 | 0.514 | -0.082 |   0.953 |  -0.003 |     1 |
    | /data/music/The Dead Texan - The Dead Texan/02 - Glen's Goo.mp3                              |      -0.037 |        0.058 |       -0.347 |      0.316 |  -0.196 |  -0.010 |    -0.028 | 0.414 | -0.069 |   0.911 |  -0.003 |    -5 |
    | /data/music/SPK - Zamia Lehmanni (Songs Of Byzantine Flowers)/05 - In Flagrante Delicto.flac |      -0.034 |        0.157 |       -0.302 |      0.704 |  -0.282 |  -0.022 |     0.005 | 0.169 |  0.007 |   0.643 |  -0.000 |   -20 |
    | /data/music/Rachel's - The Sea And The Bells/04 - Lloyd's Register.flac                      |      -0.013 |        0.012 |        0.042 |      0.546 |  -0.030 |  -0.010 |     0.002 | 0.046 | -0.069 |   0.953 |  -0.003 |    20 |
    | /data/music/Philip Glass - Koyaanisqatsi OST/03 - Clouds.flac                                |       0.315 |       -0.003 |        0.030 |      0.144 |   0.434 |   0.214 |    -0.121 | 0.169 | -0.677 |   0.467 |  -0.003 |    -2 |
    | /data/music/Amber Asylum - Frozen in Amber/04 - Heckle and Jeckle.flac                       |       0.239 |        0.076 |        0.091 |      0.024 |  -0.301 |   0.054 |    -0.087 | 0.105 | -0.007 |  -0.033 |  -0.003 |    13 |
    | /data/music/Rachels - Handwriting/05 - Seratonin.mp3                                         |      -0.032 |        0.091 |       -0.431 |      0.705 |  -0.199 |  -0.023 |    -0.023 | 0.426 | -0.001 |   0.916 |  -0.003 |    14 |
    +----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+
    *** stats (delta)
    +--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+
    | func   |   danceable |   aggressive |   electronic |   acoustic |   happy |   party |   relaxed |   sad |   dark |   tonal |   voice |     bpm |
    |--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------|
    | min    |      -0.037 |       -0.003 |       -0.525 |      0.024 |  -0.301 |  -0.023 |    -0.121 | 0.046 | -0.677 |  -0.039 |  -0.003 | -20.000 |
    | max    |       0.315 |        0.157 |        0.091 |      0.705 |   0.434 |   0.214 |     0.005 | 0.514 |  0.007 |   0.953 |  -0.000 |  20.000 |
    | mean   |       0.088 |        0.060 |       -0.189 |      0.423 |  -0.088 |   0.027 |    -0.034 | 0.242 | -0.114 |   0.596 |  -0.003 |   1.250 |
    | median |      -0.023 |        0.067 |       -0.185 |      0.431 |  -0.198 |  -0.010 |    -0.017 | 0.169 | -0.041 |   0.777 |  -0.003 |  -0.500 |
    +--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland0 View Post
    Hmmm:
    Code:
    * seed: /data/music/Pixies - Brixton Academy 05.06.2004/1 - 03 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3
    +------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+
    | file                                                                               |   danceable |   aggressive |   electronic |   acoustic |   happy |   party |   relaxed |   sad |   dark |   tonal |   voice |   bpm |
    |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------|
    | /data/music/Pixies - Brixton Academy 05.06.2004/1 - 03 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3 |       0.146 |        0.574 |        0.661 |      0.037 |   0.348 |   0.281 |     0.634 | 0.487 |  0.750 |   0.151 |   0.836 |   119 |
    | /data/music/Pixies - Brixton Academy 02.06.2004/1 - 08 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3 |       0.044 |        0.000 |        0.595 |      0.024 |   0.570 |   0.000 |     0.809 | 0.480 |  0.915 |   0.544 |   0.809 |   121 |
    | /data/music/Pixies - Coachella 2004/11 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3                 |       0.569 |        0.326 |        0.536 |      0.186 |   0.247 |   0.110 |     0.590 | 0.692 |  0.775 |   0.809 |   0.999 |   124 |
    I assume these are all basically the same track? Odd that essentia has very different 'aggressive' values. How different are the recordings? Any reason why the 1st two would be so different in their agressive attribute?

    Also, when looking at differences I'm looking at the absolute difference - so -2 and 2 are the same. (This migh tbe a bad thing to do, (as you can tell) I'm not really sure what I'm doing here...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpd73 View Post
    I assume these are all basically the same track? Odd that essentia has very different 'aggressive' values. How different are the recordings? Any reason why the 1st two would be so different in their agressive attribute?
    they are different live versions of the same song, and very similar (none is acoustic only, has bad audio quality or a noisy audience etc.), so there's no obvious explanation for the variance.
    looking at all versions of this song it's even worse:
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    0.5
    0.605293393135
    0.137314662337
    0.688453316689
    0.709211885929
    0.919100821018
    0.830868721008
    0.326436012983
    0.614248454571
    0.573822319508
    1.96212039671e-11
    0.38925370574
    the tensorflow results seem to be more consistent:
    Code:
    json.metadata.tags.file_name = "11 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3";
    json.highlevel["esstf.mood_aggressive.musicnn-mtt"].all.aggressive = 0.12698836624622345;
    json.metadata.tags.file_name = "1 - 03 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3";
    json.highlevel["esstf.mood_aggressive.musicnn-mtt"].all.aggressive = 0.25417667627334595;
    json.metadata.tags.file_name = "1 - 08 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3";
    json.highlevel["esstf.mood_aggressive.musicnn-mtt"].all.aggressive = 0.13030590116977692;
    Also, when looking at differences I'm looking at the absolute difference - so -2 and 2 are the same. (This migh tbe a bad thing to do, (as you can tell) I'm not really sure what I'm doing here...)
    Meanwhile, I've added some similarity metrics to the essentia / musly comparison (approach is rather naive: track is a 12-dim vector, calculate euclidean distance, manhattan distance and cosine similarity):
    Code:
    * seed: /data/music/Pixies - Brixton Academy 05.06.2004/1 - 03 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3
    +------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+----------+----------+----------+
    | file                                                                   |   danceable |   aggressive |   electronic |   acoustic |   happy |   party |   relaxed |   sad |   dark |   tonal |   voice |   bpm |   eucdst |   mandst |   cossim |
    |------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+----------+----------+----------|
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 05.06.2004/1 - 03 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3 |       0.146 |        0.574 |        0.661 |      0.037 |   0.348 |   0.281 |     0.634 | 0.487 |  0.750 |   0.151 |   0.836 |   119 |          |          |          |
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 02.06.2004/1 - 08 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3 |       0.044 |        0.000 |        0.595 |      0.024 |   0.570 |   0.000 |     0.809 | 0.480 |  0.915 |   0.544 |   0.809 |   121 |    0.828 |    2.038 |    0.899 |
    | Pixies - Coachella 2004/11 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3                 |       0.569 |        0.326 |        0.536 |      0.186 |   0.247 |   0.110 |     0.590 | 0.692 |  0.775 |   0.809 |   0.999 |   124 |    0.908 |    2.352 |    0.896 |
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 04.06.2004/1 - 13 - No 13 Baby.mp3            |       0.445 |        0.028 |        0.721 |      0.059 |   0.450 |   0.136 |     0.818 | 0.245 |  0.660 |   0.892 |   0.578 |   123 |    1.068 |    2.718 |    0.828 |
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 02.06.2004/1 - 11 - No. 13 Baby.mp3           |       0.000 |        0.000 |        0.833 |      0.017 |   0.322 |   0.000 |     0.809 | 0.399 |  0.728 |   0.944 |   0.713 |   127 |    1.070 |    2.477 |    0.839 |
    | Pixies - Eugene 28-04-2004/13 - Monkey Gone To Heaven.mp3              |       0.102 |        0.605 |        0.086 |      0.005 |   0.227 |   0.427 |     0.316 | 0.165 |  0.225 |   0.163 |   0.954 |   119 |    0.930 |    2.246 |    0.852 |
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 03.06.2004/2 - 10 - No 13 Baby - Caribou.mp3  |       0.316 |        0.009 |        0.836 |      0.082 |   0.065 |   0.046 |     0.887 | 0.405 |  0.959 |   0.319 |   0.068 |   126 |    1.118 |    3.006 |    0.797 |
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 05.06.2004/2 - 02 - Where Is My Mind.mp3      |       0.353 |        0.081 |        0.276 |      0.312 |   0.900 |   0.209 |     0.337 | 0.410 |  0.111 |   0.969 |   0.815 |   162 |    1.449 |    4.161 |    0.693 |
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 05.06.2004/1 - 14 - Gouge Away.mp3            |       0.616 |        0.429 |        0.244 |      0.060 |   0.658 |   0.473 |     0.035 | 0.643 |  0.500 |   0.881 |   0.508 |   124 |    1.279 |    3.658 |    0.742 |
    | Pixies - Regina, SK, Canada/1 - 11 - Where Is My Mind.mp3              |       0.457 |        0.217 |        0.159 |      0.025 |   0.601 |   0.184 |     0.196 | 0.305 |  0.023 |   0.995 |   0.514 |   155 |    1.481 |    4.318 |    0.618 |
    | Pixies - Brixton Academy 05.06.2004/1 - 11 - I Bleed.mp3               |       0.430 |        0.824 |        0.422 |      0.045 |   0.794 |   0.370 |     0.390 | 0.167 |  0.943 |   0.091 |   0.987 |    92 |    0.822 |    2.492 |    0.910 |
    +------------------------------------------------------------------------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+-------+----------+----------+----------+
    *** stats
    +--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+----------+----------+----------+
    | func   |   danceable |   aggressive |   electronic |   acoustic |   happy |   party |   relaxed |   sad |   dark |   tonal |   voice |     bpm |   eucdst |   mandst |   cossim |
    |--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+----------+----------+----------|
    | min    |       0.000 |        0.000 |        0.086 |      0.005 |   0.065 |   0.000 |     0.035 | 0.165 |  0.023 |   0.091 |   0.068 |  92.000 |    0.822 |    2.038 |    0.618 |
    | max    |       0.616 |        0.824 |        0.836 |      0.312 |   0.900 |   0.473 |     0.887 | 0.692 |  0.959 |   0.995 |   0.999 | 162.000 |    1.481 |    4.318 |    0.910 |
    | mean   |       0.333 |        0.252 |        0.471 |      0.082 |   0.484 |   0.195 |     0.519 | 0.391 |  0.584 |   0.661 |   0.695 | 127.300 |    1.095 |    2.947 |    0.807 |
    | median |       0.392 |        0.149 |        0.479 |      0.052 |   0.510 |   0.160 |     0.490 | 0.402 |  0.694 |   0.845 |   0.761 | 124.000 |    1.069 |    2.605 |    0.833 |
    +--------+-------------+--------------+--------------+------------+---------+---------+-----------+-------+--------+---------+---------+---------+----------+----------+----------+
    Not really promising, so I'll abandon this approach (another thing to consider is that musly bases similarity on timbre only (melbands), while essentia uses timbral as well as temporal features (at least the tensorflow version does, haven't checked SVM), so this may not have been such a great idea in the first place)
    What I'll try next is to use k-nearest neighbors on the essentia data and see if this finds similar tracks.
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