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    Idiots Guide to LMS 8.x Installation?

    Decided to build an new LMS 8.x on an rPI 4b to replace my LMS from 7.9x on an rPi 3b and wondering if there's one source for installation guidance? This won't be an upgrade, I'm starting from scratch and will copy my library over once LMS 8.0 is installed. I recall seeing somewhere that the Boom needs to be upgraded; I have 1 Boom and 2 Radios. Also wondering if there's any advantage to using a 4GB board instead of a 2GB, I have both handy.
    My configuration is fairly simple - one local library, handful of standard LMS plug ins plus Spotty and ShairTunes2.

    Sorry if this is plainly posted somewhere and I missed it - looked through the sticky postings in General and LMS forums...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHart View Post
    Decided to build an new LMS 8.x on an rPI 4b to replace my LMS from 7.9x on an rPi 3b and wondering if there's one source for installation guidance? This won't be an upgrade, I'm starting from scratch and will copy my library over once LMS 8.0 is installed. I recall seeing somewhere that the Boom needs to be upgraded; I have 1 Boom and 2 Radios. Also wondering if there's any advantage to using a 4GB board instead of a 2GB, I have both handy.
    My configuration is fairly simple - one local library, handful of standard LMS plug ins plus Spotty and ShairTunes2.

    Sorry if this is plainly posted somewhere and I missed it - looked through the sticky postings in General and LMS forums...

    Many thanks,
    Jeff
    If you are using piCorePlayer = https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/install_lms/

    EDIT
    Radios need the upgrade not Booms - https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...-required-quot
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    Idiots Guide to LMS 8.xInstallation?

    > Decided to build an new LMS 8.x on an rPI 4b to replace my LMS from 7.9x
    > on an rPi 3b and wondering if there's one source for installation
    > guidance? This won't be an upgrade, I'm starting from scratch and will


    https://docs.picoreplayer.org/projec...le-lms-server/

    > copy my library over once LMS 8.0 is installed. I recall seeing
    > somewhere that the Boom needs to be upgraded; I have 1 Boom and 2


    The Boom is fine. The Radio might cause some warning in the log and
    elsewhere, but it should work without modification. You can still take
    care of this minor issue once everything's set up.

    > Radios. Also wondering if there's any advantage to using a 4GB board
    > instead of a 2GB, I have both handy.


    I'm using a 2GB version, and about 1GB is free all the time. Sure, if
    you have hundreds of thousands of tracks, that might be different.

    > My configuration is fairly simple - one local library, handful of
    > standard LMS plug ins plus Spotty and ShairTunes2.


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    PS. Although you can use Raspbian (or max2play) I'd suggest that piCorePlayer is the way to go as it is constantly being developed, is very well supported (here) and provides easy upgrade of LMS after the initial install.
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    Thanks all for the quick responses and insights! Sounds like basically I just need to update my Radios and either download 8.0x and install or go with piCorePlayer. Would piCorePlayer allow me to also install EasyTag - a GUI tag editor? I ripped my library in batches and am fixing tags on the fly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffHart View Post
    Would piCorePlayer allow me to also install EasyTag - a GUI tag editor? I ripped my library in batches and am fixing tags on the fly.
    no, but you don't need to do that anyhow. I assume the music files are on a USB drive you connect to the rPi4. Simply shutdown piCore on the rPi, unplug the USB drive, and plug that USB drive into your computer and use EasyTag to update your files. When done, just plug back into your rPi and restart the rPi. You'll probably need to then have LMS rescan your library to pick up tag changes. (Note, I often have to do a clear and rescan to get tag only changes picked up, rather than just a "new and changed".)
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    also see this for transferring over LMS settings:

    https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...g-to-6-0/page2

    also, re: LMS ver 8 and Radios.

    1. On radio itself, SETTINGS >ADVANCED, choose applet installer and locate and install the applet "patch installer"
    2. On radio itself, SETTINGS >ADVANCED,choose "patch installer" (not! applet installer) and select the "version comparison fix" patch and install.
    Last edited by garym; 2020-12-01 at 15:11.
    Home: VBA2.5 4TB or rPi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet)
    Cottage: rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI)
    Office: Win10(64)>foobar2000
    The Wild: rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite)
    Controllers: iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64)
    Files: Ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; Post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; Streaming: Spotify

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    Thanks again for the quick responses and guidance!

    re:
    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    no, but you don't need to do that anyhow. I assume the music files are on a USB drive you connect to the rPi4
    Actually I set up LMS so everything runs from a single microSD including the library; wouldn't recommend it for a library that changes often and I always have at least three library backups, including one on a local USB SSD connected to my daily use PC and an archive in the cloud.

    Right now I have three LMS online, one running 7.92, one running 7.94 with library on USB SSD, and the new one running 8.0.1. Picked up a Samsung EVO Select 256GB microSDXC for $25 on Black Friday for the new server

    I'm getting a case for the rPi 4 running 8.0.1 this weekend and will physically replace the 7.92 LMS direct attached to my firewall/gateway. I'll pull out the microSD from the 7.92 and keep that as an archive for now and turn the rPi 3 into a piCorePlayer, replacing an rPi4 currently running Squeezelite

    Haven't patched the Radios yet, that's on my to do for this evening and then I can cut over completely to the 8.0.1 LMS. So far it seems to be running great - one small glitch in that I changed to a static IP after I installed LMS and the plug-ins - the Spotty plug-in v4.4.4 kept a reference to the previous dynamic IP. Just needed to unclick/remove the plug in and then add it back in and all is well.

    When I get the library tagged properly will build a PiCorePlayer LMS server and check it out.
    "You know, I'm all for progress. It's change I object to."
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