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    I have not updated for a week, now, because I didn't want to introduce new uncertainties. The version is Logitech Media Server Version: 8.0.1 - 1606059084 @ Sun Nov 22 16:49:21 CET 2020.

    It is buffering. The Controller will show rebuffering ... and only now and then a short snippet will play. When the LMS has entered this state, it affects all players (actually, I haven't tested them all) and all tracks, and after a restart, all players and all tracks are fine again.
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    Can you confirm which Tidal format is associated with the problem - Tidal MPEG4 or Tidal Flac ? Since you are referencing faad - I assumed you are NOT using Tidal HiFi Flac streams.

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    No, I only pay for compressed audio. 320 kBit AAC is what the Controller shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvordeme View Post
    No, I only pay for compressed audio. 320 kBit AAC is what the Controller shows.
    The problem could be Tidal AAC specific (which are in MPEG4) or streamed MPEG-4 in general.

    Below is an example link for France Musique MP4 jazz podcast (there are many) - which is streamed MPEG-4
    http://rf.proxycast.org/07022d2a-cb9...13802S0335.m4a

    However, from your description, it seems unlikely that just playing this podcast will trigger the issue. The issue seems to have a time element as well.

    Can you play the podcast or any streamed MP4 to see if the issue shows up.

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    Next time the LMS goes into denial, I can just try to play it. Do I simply need the Podcasts plug-in?

    Ok, cancel that. I can just add it as a favourite.
    Last edited by mvordeme; 2020-12-01 at 10:11.
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    Tidal got stuck again, today, and I tried a few more things.

    • On the Receiver, the MPEG-4 podcast did not play, either. It showed the same behaviour as tracks from Tidal, i.e. re-buffering and now and then playing a few seconds.
    • On squeezelite, Tidal tracks would still play, but they had some trouble taking off. The clock would start counting, but no music would play. After a few seconds, the music would follow, get stuck again, and start over. After one or two attempts and the occasional stuttering, the entire track less the first few seconds would play without any problem. It was the same for all tracks I tried.
    • On squeezelite, the MPEG-4 podcast played without any problems whatsoever.
    • Today, the piCorePlayer web interface was not working properly, either. The CPU temperature display for example would run into a "connection reset" error more often than not.


    I just restarted the LMS (took a few retries to load the LMS page), and the pCP web interface is back. Memory consumption of the LMS was at more than 210 MB and is back to 103 MB, now. Tidal tracks are playing properly again on the Receiver and on squeezelite.
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    The same thing again today. The moment Tidal gets stuck, the pCP web interface does not load properly any more. And I noticed another thing: I configured the Transporter to power down the audio section when off. It was sitting there, clicking about once per minute. It seems that the entire server is out of connections. As soon as the LMS is restarted, everything is fine again.
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    I re-wired mains and network to the pi and, while I was at it, updated the LMS to Logitech Media Server Version: 8.0.1 - 1607087403 @ Fri Dec 4 14:26:56 CET 2020. It is still showing the same behaviour. I noticed one more thing. A few tracks before Tidal streaming breaks and the pCP interface goes down, the last seconds of tracks are sometimes skipped. The Controller is still counting down the remaining time when the next track suddenly starts playing. Somebody else has already noticed this here:
    Quote Originally Posted by gvh View Post
    The issue I'm getting is that every song is being cut off early, the next track starts a few seconds before the song is due to end. Crossfade is off. Not sure of any other settings to check.
    Nothing in the logs even with Tidal set to debug.
    As soon as the LMS is restarted, this goes away, too.
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    Might have to make a post with Tidal in the subject.
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    Resource Leak (Connections) in Tidal Plug-In?

    Can this discussion be moved?
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