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    Raspberry Pi basics

    As usual, the search function on this list has proven not very useful

    I'm contemplating converting my music server arrangements to a Raspberry Pi, possibly the Pi4. I currently have a micro-size Windows box serving that function, but think it might be safer to convert. I have a USB monitor and keyboard, along with an external HDD for music storage, attached to the FitPC3 I'm currently using. I'm thinking I might have to get an HDMI monitor, although the little USB monitor is working fine.

    So, I need to know basics, like installing LMS on the Pi, mounting the external drive, connecting to the network, etc etc.

    Is there a guide that I couldn't find?

    R.
    LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3)
    Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers
    Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers
    Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space
    Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.)
    Radio (WiFi) - home office
    Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4)
    Touch x 1 - spare
    UE Radio x 1 - spare
    Boom x 1 - spare
    Controller x 1 - Spare
    Duet Receiver (backup)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonM View Post
    As usual, the search function on this list has proven not very useful

    I'm contemplating converting my music server arrangements to a Raspberry Pi, possibly the Pi4. I currently have a micro-size Windows box serving that function, but think it might be safer to convert. I have a USB monitor and keyboard, along with an external HDD for music storage, attached to the FitPC3 I'm currently using. I'm thinking I might have to get an HDMI monitor, although the little USB monitor is working fine.

    So, I need to know basics, like installing LMS on the Pi, mounting the external drive, connecting to the network, etc etc.

    Is there a guide that I couldn't find?

    R.
    The subject is very much a moving target, but I think this is as good a starting point as you are likely to find:

    https://www.picoreplayer.org/landingzone_option2.html

    This is all about setting up LMS on a Pi running the piCorePlayer OS, which is probably the best bet if you are a Linux newcomer. You might eventually consider moving to another OS on the Pi if you want to do much more than just run LMS and a Squeezelite player on it. If you're going to dedicate the Pi to just those tasks, pCP is an excellent OS choice.
    LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic.

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    SqueezeBoxes: 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's
    Server: LMS on Pi3 7.9.1. on PcP 3.21
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonM View Post
    As usual, the search function on this list has proven not very useful

    I'm contemplating converting my music server arrangements to a Raspberry Pi, possibly the Pi4. I currently have a micro-size Windows box serving that function, but think it might be safer to convert. I have a USB monitor and keyboard, along with an external HDD for music storage, attached to the FitPC3 I'm currently using. I'm thinking I might have to get an HDMI monitor, although the little USB monitor is working fine.

    So, I need to know basics, like installing LMS on the Pi, mounting the external drive, connecting to the network, etc etc.

    Is there a guide that I couldn't find?

    R.
    Agree with the previous reply. You don't really need a monitor or keyboard attached to the Pi as everything can be done remotely.

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    I've been running LMS on a Raspberry Pi 3B for some years now, and I'd definitely recommend it over a full spec computer. It is hooked up by ethernet to my router, as is my NAS which holds the music files.
    I have never used a monitor or keyboard with it - if I need to access the server other than via its web interface I ssh in via a terminal on my laptop.
    There is a developing documentation site for piCorePlayer at https://docs.picoreplayer.org/
    I would definitely recommend piCorePlayer, I have always found it pretty straightforward, and assistance via these forums is always quick and helpful.

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    Touch > DacMagic 100 > Naim Audio Nait 3 > Mission 752 (plus Rega Planar 3 > Rega Fono Mini; Naim CD3)
    2 x Squeezebox Radios, 1 X Squeezebox 3 (retired), 1 x SqueezeAMP
    Office: LMS8.0.0 running on Raspberry Pi3; Raspberry Pi 3 player with touchscreen/piCorePlayer/IQaudIO DAC and Amp
    Portable: Raspberry Pi 3B/pCP7.0.1/LMS8.1.2/Material, files on Seagate portable drive, powered via power brick

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    Okay then, I've definitely been having some conceptual issues. I'd imagined the Pi running some version of Linux as OS and installing LMS. I'm unclear on the role of PiCorePlayer. Is it actually the OS installed on the Pi, or is it an extra layer? And is it necessary for installing LMS? And what about SqueezeLite vs LMS? Or is that even a sensible question?

    Perhaps someone could lay out the basic architecture for me.

    R.
    LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3)
    Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers
    Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers
    Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space
    Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.)
    Radio (WiFi) - home office
    Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4)
    Touch x 1 - spare
    UE Radio x 1 - spare
    Boom x 1 - spare
    Controller x 1 - Spare
    Duet Receiver (backup)

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    There are several supported OS for the Raspberry pi

    http://https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/

    Raspberry PI OS is used by most people for LMS

    Squeezelite is the player and can be installed as a standalone player or in combination with LMS as a Player/Server.

    Regard piCorePlayer as an OS which allows Player/server as either a combiantion or an independent device

    Max2Play is an OS similar to pCP withe free installation but with the possibility for add-ons to be installed for a small fee

    ronnie

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    Thanks. So if I will never use the Pi as a player, only as a server, I don't need to think about PiCorePlayer at all. I can just go with the Pi OS, install LMS on the Pi and proceed. I assume there are instructions for that.

    Similarly, I don't need SqueezeLite if I'm not going to be using the Pi as a player.

    The next question is about an external HDD; my 1tb drive is almost full, and I think I will be copying all the content onto a 2tb drive; I'll then need to make it available to the Pi. Any issues with that? Do I need to set up the drive (partition, etc) using the Pi OS, or will it accept a drive set up for Windows?

    I feel like such a noob asking what I'm sure are basic questions!

    R.
    Last edited by RonM; 2020-10-14 at 13:17.
    LMS on a dedicated server (FitPC3)
    Transporter (Ethernet) - main listening, Onkyo receiver, Paradigm speakers
    Touch (WiFi) - home theater 5.1, Sony receiver, Energy speakers
    Boom 1 (WiFi) - work-space
    Boom 2 (WiFi) - various (deck, garage, etc.)
    Radio (WiFi) - home office
    Control - Squeeze Control (Android mobile), 2 Controllers (seldom used), Squeeze Remote (on Surface Pro 4)
    Touch x 1 - spare
    UE Radio x 1 - spare
    Boom x 1 - spare
    Controller x 1 - Spare
    Duet Receiver (backup)

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    piCorePlayer = piCore + squeezelite + web GUI

    The web GUI includes a lot of installation and configuration scripts.

    You add an extra extension or 2 for LMS (or other features).

    https://picoreplayer.gitlab.io/pCP-d.../picoreplayer/

    Instead of piCorePlayer you could use any OS you like and install LMS manually.

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    I'm with RonM

    Quote Originally Posted by RonM View Post
    Okay then, I've definitely been having some conceptual issues. I'd imagined the Pi running some version of Linux as OS and installing LMS. I'm unclear on the role of PiCorePlayer. Is it actually the OS installed on the Pi, or is it an extra layer? And is it necessary for installing LMS? And what about SqueezeLite vs LMS? Or is that even a sensible question?

    Perhaps someone could lay out the basic architecture for me.

    R.
    I've been trying for 2 days to get Max2Play up and running. Initially, I'm able to log into the Max2Play webpage. But, when I set it to log into my ssid, it works and then fails. Afterwards, I'm locked out with no apps to even troubleshoot or fix the connection issues. The OS is simply too locked down for my liking. However, I managed to get Kodi working with a USB library.
    I don't want a headless media server. I simply want a fully functional Raspberry Pi OS with a media server to:
    a) Browse the Internet (YouTube, etc);
    b) Play music (local, Pandora, webRadio, etc.) or video on my TV, and;
    c) Stream that media synchronously to multiple rooms.

    Can anyone please point me/us to some simple instructions for installing multiroom configuration(s) of Squeezebox/Squeezelite/LMS onto an existing Raspberry OS? I've been searching for this solution for over a week and don't understand why such an obvious objective is so illusive.
    BTW, just like RonM, I'm a also newbie. Perhaps that's why these pre-baked, locked-down images exist. But, I'd really like to build the system from the ground up and learn how to service whatever is under the hood. I've already got a good understanding of Raspberry Pi OS and would like to start from there. Right, RonM?

    Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to share some pointers.

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