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  1. #701
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    Quote Originally Posted by simoh View Post
    Hello expectingtofly,

    Recently listening to Radio 4 LIVE, playback stops ~45 seconds before the end of each programme. I have to restart the live stream to catch the last few seconds. Playback then continues until just before the end of the succeeding programme.

    Happy to send logs, if you let me know what logging options I need to enable.

    Thanks, Simon.
    Are there any errors in the logs:?

    If not, you can set the logging level of BBCSounds to "info" and I can have a look.

  2. #702
    Quote Originally Posted by expectingtofly View Post
    Are there any errors in the logs:?

    If not, you can set the logging level of BBCSounds to "info" and I can have a look.

    [21-02-24 12:56:50.8765] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (783) Data not yet available for 252214284 now 1614171410.87636 edge 1614171411.54254
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.2775] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (775) Need More data, we have 14
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.2779] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (783) Data not yet available for 252214284 now 1614171411.27778 edge 1614171411.54254
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.6863] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (775) Need More data, we have 14
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.6867] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (788) Fetching 252214284 towards the end of 252214284base url :https://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.ne...rfm.isml/dash/
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.7396] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__ (820) Dynamic track has ended and stream will continue
    [21-02-24 12:56:52.1051] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (890) end streaming
    [21-02-24 12:56:52.1070] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::close (260) close called

    Thanks, Simon.

    p.s. This was You and Yours, which stopped playing at 37:00/37:00, before the end of the programme.
    Last edited by simoh; 2021-02-24 at 06:06.

  3. #703
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    Quote Originally Posted by simoh View Post
    [21-02-24 12:56:50.8765] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (783) Data not yet available for 252214284 now 1614171410.87636 edge 1614171411.54254
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.2775] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (775) Need More data, we have 14
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.2779] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (783) Data not yet available for 252214284 now 1614171411.27778 edge 1614171411.54254
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.6863] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (775) Need More data, we have 14
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.6867] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (788) Fetching 252214284 towards the end of 252214284base url :https://as-dash-uk-live.akamaized.ne...rfm.isml/dash/
    [21-02-24 12:56:51.7396] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::__ANON__ (820) Dynamic track has ended and stream will continue
    [21-02-24 12:56:52.1051] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::sysread (890) end streaming
    [21-02-24 12:56:52.1070] Plugins::BBCSounds::ProtocolHandler::close (260) close called

    Thanks, Simon.
    Please can you let me know the LMS version and the player you are using. Your player should just ask to start the next programme.
    You may need to send me the whole log, I'll need to see what happens after the programme has been closed

  4. #704
    Quote Originally Posted by expectingtofly View Post
    Please can you let me know the LMS version and the player you are using. Your player should just ask to start the next programme.
    You may need to send me the whole log, I'll need to see what happens after the programme has been closed
    Version 8.1.1 playing to a Lumin streamer via UPnP plugin.

    Attached is a log from this morning. Started 'Today' just before the end of the programme. I restarted the stream after it stopped, and paused it soon after.

    Thanks, Simon.

    server 2.log

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    Quote Originally Posted by simoh View Post
    Version 8.1.1 playing to a Lumin streamer via UPnP plugin.

    Attached is a log from this morning. Started 'Today' just before the end of the programme. I restarted the stream after it stopped, and paused it soon after.

    Thanks, Simon.

    server 2.log
    BBC Sounds presents live radio as a "RepeatingStream" as LMS calls them. Which has a track per programme. When one track ends it should should automatically call to get the next track, and seamlessly carry on.
    It appears that the UPnPBridge or Lumin streamer or the combination of the two is not behaving correctly. I haven't got a way of testing the Upnpbridge, but I have tested on the chromecast bridge, for example, and that behaves correctly.

    I know zero about the UPnPBridge plugin, but are there any settings in there to make it work? Look for settings on gapless playback (I think that was mentioned that earlier in the thread). Someone else might be able to help

    It might be worth asking on the UPnPBridge thread for help, I suspect if there is a combination of upnp devices that don't work for repeating streams, other people would now how to fix it. BBC Sounds, Pandora and Slacker are examples of plugins that use "RepeatingStreams"

  6. #706
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    Hi

    Great plugin, but having some issues listening to on demand.
    The track info get rushed through , so if the show last an hour the last song is displayed after about 15 minutes.

    Viewing the tracklist, I can see it starts some minutes in, eg 00:03:30. I guess that's the news (which isn't heard).
    I don't now if that makes a difference.

    Listening outside of UK.

    regards

    ken
    Last edited by ken_s; 2021-02-25 at 11:48.

  7. #707
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    Quote Originally Posted by ken_s View Post
    Hi

    Great plugin, but having some issues listening to on demand.
    The track info get rushed through , so if the show last an hour the last song is displayed after about 15 minutes.

    Viewing the tracklist, I can see it starts some minutes in, eg 00:03:30. I guess that's the news (which isn't heard).
    I don't now if that makes a difference.

    Listening outside of UK.

    regards

    ken
    A few things to consider here :
    • For Audio On Demand, for some programmes, they first release it with the news at the start, then repackage without the news later. They sometimes include the news in the times, the sometimes don't, but I have noticed they never change the tracklist when they do the repackaging
    • The plugin uses the same tracklist that you see in the menus, so if that is wrong, it will be wrong when displaying the track on the player when the item is playing
    • The BBC themselves don't use the tracklist in the way the plugin is using it in their own apps, they just display a list for Audio on demand, not replay it out with the audio. So they have no incentive to get the times accurate, only the order accurate.
    • The plugin might be out by a few seconds or so, as it tries to display it on the controller in synch with what's playing out of the players buffer, but it might not be spot on.


    So, in short, as long as the plugin is displaying the track more or less as is you see in the tracklist, that's the best I can do (If it's not, please provide an example). It's not really the BBC's fault either, as it the tracklist information is being used in a way they don't intend (sometimes they don't even include the times, just a list)

  8. #708

    Intermittent skip in BBC sounds programs

    I'm listening back to 2 programmes on BBC R4 (Counterpoint and Just a Minute) anf am getting intermittent skips

    Internet speeds and pings are normal for me, and I'm not seeing any issues otherwise. I'm not hearing any skips if I listen on BBC sounds via the web.

    I also have a Pi4 running PiCore 7 and am getting the same issue.

    Logitech Media Server Version: 8.1.1 - 1610364019 on Synology Nas
    Player Model: Squeezebox Radio on Firmware: 8.0.1-r16835
    BBC sounds Release 2.14.0
    Listening outside the UK

    bbcsounds.txtbbcsounds.txt

    Log file attached if it is any help.

    Any suggestions?

  9. #709
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    Quote Originally Posted by DecTenToo View Post
    I'm listening back to 2 programmes on BBC R4 (Counterpoint and Just a Minute) anf am getting intermittent skips

    Internet speeds and pings are normal for me, and I'm not seeing any issues otherwise. I'm not hearing any skips if I listen on BBC sounds via the web.

    Player Model: Squeezebox Radio on Firmware: 8.0.1-r16835
    ?
    I find the The community firmware AAC decoder has some issues with high bitrate AAC streams. It is being worked on.
    Try disabling native AAC in Settings->Advanced->File types so that it gets transcoded to flac. That fixes it for me.

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    Try disabling native AAC in Settings->Advanced->File types so that it gets transcoded to flac. That fixes it for me.
    Oh yes, spot on

    Thank you very much.

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