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    Here's one that needs nothing added or changed and I've referred other to this in these forums. I find the wiki useful for other stuff too.
    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...button_and_LED
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    As I've dived into picoreplayer this year and figured out various things I had been thinking about just writing posts on here along the lines of
    "A beginners guide to using a Flirc USB V2 with pcp"
    "Parts list for building a touchscreen player"
    and laying it out step by step.

    We're not too good at removing barriers to getting new people into this world. Plenty of us have been doing this forever and are happy to do the super complex bits but then we let people figure out the basics the hard way.
    Of course I agree the wiki should go if it's out of date

    Or just let us add to the pcp site's docs of course, but understand from a discussion I saw that it's not that simple.

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    +1 for read only archive

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    +1 for archiving the wiki and make it read-only.

    I also agree with frankd :
    ... thus I would vote for archiving the wiki and adding some statements on the first page that the primary source of information is this forum.
    with the addition of searching the forum using google.com is best performed by adding "site:forums.slimdevices.com" first in the search field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w3wilkes View Post
    Here's one that needs nothing added or changed and I've referred other to this in these forums. I find the wiki useful for other stuff too.
    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...button_and_LED
    agree with w3wilkes. I have searched and found allot of good info that is not searchable in the forums. Having wrestled with Controllers, The above example is a good one. A second example is when I found info on setting up "tiny LMS" for a friend.

    +1 for read only, but would not want it to disappear. I think a "contents are outdated and unmaintained, proceed with caution" statement would be helpful. As others have said, referencing the forum is a good thought.

    Jim

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    read only is fine for me.

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    Bye bye wiki?

    I would like my support again for read only and NOT MAINTAINED warnings on the sites. OUTDATED does not apply to all pages.

    But a Forum is definitely not a WIKI, and finding information in a forum is extremely difficult, because you have the original version and than numerous replies with additions and changes and so on.

    Also: a WIKI would be very useful to get new users started in the LMS ecosystem, which can seem daunting at the beginning, but actually is not.

    To bring the current wiki up to date, would be a lot of work, and it would be easier to start a new one, which is growing based on the needs and questions of (old and new) users.

    Another option would be stackoverflow (https://stackoverflow.com), but I think that would be daunting for new users? But it would provide edibility, brilliant search, maintained infrastructure etc. But asking there would draw away from this mailing list.

    Cheers,

    Rainer



    > On 11 Sep 2020, at 20:25, frankd <frankd.9p1tlb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > mherger wrote:
    >> We have a wiki (wiki.slimdevices.com) which has mostly been abandoned
    >> for a few years. Hardly any updates to the content, no updates to the
    >> underlying system. Unfortunately we can't easily "fix" that. In order to
    >>
    >> update OS, database and application, we'd likely have to spend a lot of
    >>
    >> effort. Not to mention what would be needed to update the content.
    >>
    >> So is it time to say goodbye to the wiki? I could put it up somewhere in
    >>
    >> a read-only mode, as an archive. But something must happen soon.
    >>
    >> Opinions?
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Michael

    >
    > Since all new developments have happened in the context of the forum and
    > have been documented somewhere in the forum, while the Wiki has been in
    > hibernation for many years, we should concentrate time and efforts. On
    > the one side the wiki contains interesting information hard to find in
    > the forum, on the other side the Wiki contains also a lot of outdated
    > and misleading information (as developments moved on).
    > Maintaining the content of the Wiki is a lot of effort, thus I would
    > vote for archiving the wiki and adding some statements on the first page
    > that the primary source of information is this forum.
    > There is one wish from my side: If investing time into improving IT - a
    > better search function for this forum would be very much appreciated.
    > Most of the time I searched for a topic, I was ways better off using
    > google to search for the right thread / post.
    > Would it be possible to add another search engine to the forum (not sure
    > if google still offers to use their search engine for a website-specific
    > search like they did long time ago).
    > This will also help to prevent the multiple postings of the same issues
    > / topics.
    >
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    Bye bye wiki?

    Thanks guys! It has happened. https://wiki.slimdevices.com is in
    read-only mode. I'm sure there are some issues navigating around it. But
    oh well... let's hope Google does index it well :-)
    --

    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    Thanks guys! It has happened. https://wiki.slimdevices.com is in
    read-only mode. I'm sure there are some issues navigating around it. But
    oh well... let's hope Google does index it well :-)
    --

    Michael
    Is only parts of it available in read only mode ?

    The page that linked to all my plugin documentation seems to be gone:
    https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland

    Not sure if even the linked pages from the above page is available, tried this for example but I’m not sure the url is correct:
    https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.p..._Browse_plugin

    Or is it just that the urls changes when switched to read only so I need to find the new url through a google search when it has been indexed ?

    I think I have a fairly updated backup on my personal (currently unavailable) wiki so it’s not the end of the world if they have been permanently deleted. I should probably move the plugin documentation to the github repositories for respective plugin sometime in the future when I get the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erland View Post

    The page that linked to all my plugin documentation seems to be gone:
    https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland

    Not sure if even the linked pages from the above page is available, tried this for example but I’m not sure the url is correct:
    https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.p..._Browse_plugin
    web.archive.org seems to have archived them so until it’s available somewhere else my plugin documentation can be found via this link:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20200218...hp/User:Erland
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