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    MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?

    I've got MusicIP server setup on centos box, with LMS running also. I've spent the horsepower saving musicip data into the 80k songs. And now I'm trying to configure plugins to do something useful. I've gotten past the technical hurdles of 64bit inodes, directory names, etc, I can get suggestions directly from the musicip server running, but there's a lot of knobs to tune, and trying to figure out some better docs on what they do to generate something a little less chaotic then Lords of Acid -> Ricky Martin -> Chemical Brothers. (It does seem to sort of work, I pick reggae, I get reggae suggestions, it's not random)

    I'm also testing out SugarCube and finding that it seems to generate a bunch of choices, then always picks the first one, and then keeps putting it in the playlist if I scan forward on the song, which does make testing entertaining. Is this normal? (I already spent too much time trying to go through the search function and the 75+ pages here on the forum post)

    Hoping to get some people's favorite/default settings they use to listen to music. Any suggestions would be welcome.

    (I haven't had a chance to install essentia/musly, they are on my todo list still)

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    Hey,

    about getting less "chaotic" results, I for one use MusicIP filters that you can then select in SugarCube's settings (on Player level)
    You could also try Recipes, ...

    about picking the first choice, have a look a the "SugarCube wobble" setting.

    HTH

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    Version 5.00 Beta

    Hi

    I've just rolled v5.00 beta which has a new interface layout which should make it less confusing.

    I recommend selecting -> Dynamic Queuing
    NOT selecting -> MusicIP Vintage Mode

    The rest of the settings are personal taste

    Further details below, there are some quite fundamental changes and fixes

    https://spicefly.com/article.php?pag...ersion-history
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    Quote Originally Posted by cparker View Post
    Hi

    I've just rolled v5.00 beta which has a new interface layout which should make it less confusing.

    I recommend selecting -> Dynamic Queuing
    NOT selecting -> MusicIP Vintage Mode

    The rest of the settings are personal taste

    Further details below, there are some quite fundamental changes and fixes

    https://spicefly.com/article.php?pag...ersion-history
    Thanks CParker for the changes and also implementing my proposals to expose the MusicIP Artist and Music Genre filters to the general device settings menu similar to the MusicIP Filter filter... :-)
    One more request, in particular using the material gui which has not all functionalities of the general gui: would it be possible to add a switch for "Don't Stop the Music" (settings per player) to implement the sugarcube on off switch which is only accessible in the very sophisticated original webgui???
    Maybe MHerger can help????
    Cheers

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    MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?

    >> One more request, in particular using the material gui which has not all
    >> functionalities of the general gui: would it be possible to add a switch
    >> for "Don't Stop the Music" (settings per player) to implement the
    >> sugarcube on off switch which is only accessible in the very
    >> sophisticated original webgui???


    Could you please elaborate?

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    Michael

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    >> One more request, in particular using the material gui which has not all
    >> functionalities of the general gui: would it be possible to add a switch
    >> for "Don't Stop the Music" (settings per player) to implement the
    >> sugarcube on off switch which is only accessible in the very
    >> sophisticated original webgui???


    Could you please elaborate?

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    Michael
    Thanks Michael for picking this up :-)
    When I go to player setting in the web gui and I go to don't stop the music, I have the option to select musicIP, Lastmix, Random xxx and all the other opportunities of online services, but not a way to switch on and off spicefly sugarcube. It would be great to have there a spicefly sugarcube option as well . Not sure if CParker has to implement it (my guess) or if it is core to LMS....
    Cheers,
    Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Drown View Post
    Hoping to get some people's favorite/default settings they use to listen to music. Any suggestions would be welcome.
    For player config -
    SugarCube Mix Mode : Standard MusicIP
    How much Mix Style : 170
    How much Mix Variety : 3
    Mix by Song or Album : Song

    then a whole lot of (None)
    Dynamic Queuing Ticked
    Block Artist Repeating for x Track : 5
    a whole lot of (None)
    Block Album Repeating for x Tracks : 5

    No Trackstat

    Defaults for the rest except Tracks to keep in Playlist View :202
    Last edited by Wirrunna; 2020-01-26 at 14:53. Reason: added player config
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    Spicefly SugarCube Plugin config

    Spicefly SugarCube Live View Width
    100

    Album Art Size in SugarCube LiveView
    125

    SugarCube Live View Icon Position
    1

    SugarCube History Icon Position
    3

    Enable TrackStat un ticked

    MusicIP Request No. of Tracks
    10

    Enable Christmas Genre Block Ticked
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    MusicIP / SugarCube settings suggestions?

    > When I go to player setting in the web gui and I go to don't stop the
    > music, I have the option to select musicIP, Lastmix, Random xxx and all
    > the other opportunities of online services, but not a way to switch on
    > and off spicefly sugarcube. It would be great to have there a spicefly
    > sugarcube option as well . Not sure if CParker has to implement it (my
    > guess) or if it is core to LMS....


    That would be SugarCube's task. I can certainly help if there are questions.

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    Michael

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    Thanks for the update to the plugin, and thanks for the settings suggestion. I've tuned up the "mix style" (similar to artist) to see if that changes things a bit. I have a large collection, but with 1/3 to 1/2 being compilations of tracks, and I wonder if that causes some issues with the mixing. Will see how that impacts the mixes, I previously had that set to 0 as I wasn't concerned about track to track being "like the artist".

    I've now got it set to MixStyle=150, and MixVariety=3, and MixBy=Song. I had dynamic mode, and most everything else disabled, or off.

    Anyone else have a "favorite" way to set musicip mixes?

    Next step, fixing the UI to change the Next/Previous track to the "proper" images, |< and >|, not << >>.

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