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    I 'complained' in the Synology forum and the response is here:
    https://community.synology.com/enu/f...8?reply=417377
    ... that they recommend to use Docker.

    Is this a viable way forward?

    /Claus

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfuttrup View Post
    I 'complained' in the Synology forum and the response is here:
    https://community.synology.com/enu/f...8?reply=417377
    ... that they recommend to use Docker.

    Is this a viable way forward?

    /Claus
    Docker is only x86_64, so no, not for all arch's!
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    -LmsRepack + LmsUpdate - Updated and Cleaned up Logitech Media Server 8.0.0 for Synology.

  3. #13
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    LMS will be discontinued on Synology

    On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 17:03:32 +0000, cfuttrup
    <cfuttrup.9e1f4n (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:

    > I 'complained' in the Synology forum and the response is here:
    > https://community.synology.com/enu/f...8?reply=417377
    > ... that they recommend to use Docker.
    >
    > Is this a viable way forward?


    Docker is for limited architectures only, and requires substantial
    resources. A 2GB DS418 runs LSM nucely but will die when you mention docker.

    I think the best option is a 4GB RPi4.

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    I have a DS415+ (Quad core Intel Atom)... but it anyway sounds like an unnecessary heavy load. Maybe I can just keep running my machine as-is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cfuttrup View Post
    I have a DS415+ (Quad core Intel Atom)... but it anyway sounds like an unnecessary heavy load. Maybe I can just keep running my machine as-is.
    July is not the end of the world. Till then LMS is still in the Package Center and is still supported. We only have a problem if the update Perl after July! We will know more about a possible update of perl in the upcoming DSM 7.0 beta. But first we have to wait on the Preview release of DSM7.0. And as others mentioned already: if you're depending on LMS, there are other alternatives, like a rpi (when push comes to shove).
    -DS718+, RPI 2 (Spotifyd/myMPD/Squeezelite),Aune S6 - Exposure 3010S2 - PMC FB1i-s
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvromans@squirrel.nl View Post
    Major stumbling block is the fact that LMS does not play nicely with stock
    Perl. Last time I looked it required a bunch of specially patched and built
    tools and modules to run. Several people (including me) have tried to get
    LMS running on a clean, distro supplied Perl platform with varying (but
    never succesful, at least not that I know) results.
    On my Qnap NAS running Debian the Marvell ARM CPU is not supported/included in perl modules in the slimserver Debian installer.

    I build the slimserver CPAN modules with the stock build script everytime Debian change their perl version. I have been doing this for years.
    It is painless and simple.

    Git clone slimserver CPAN stuff.
    Apt install make, compiler, media libs etc.
    Run build script.
    Copy built modules to correct folder.

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    LMS will be discontinued on Synology

    > I build the slimserver CPAN modules with the stock build script
    > everytime Debian change their perl version. I have been doing this for
    > years.
    > It is painless and simple.


    "Painless" is relative :-). In particular when you have to do it for x
    platforms (armv5, armv7, armv8, x86, x86_64, PPC...), some of which
    might take hours to finish, potentially don't work at first and you have
    to restart for whatever reason. It's still work.

    --

    Michael

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    LMS will be discontinued on Synology

    On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 07:08:56 +0100, Michael Herger <slim (AT) herger (DOT) net> wrote:

    > "Painless" is relative :-).


    Installed nightly arm .deb on Pi4. That's what I call painless .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bits View Post
    On my Qnap NAS running Debian the Marvell ARM CPU is not supported/included in perl modules in the slimserver Debian installer.

    I build the slimserver CPAN modules with the stock build script everytime Debian change their perl version. I have been doing this for years.
    It is painless and simple.

    Git clone slimserver CPAN stuff.
    Apt install make, compiler, media libs etc.
    Run build script.
    Copy built modules to correct folder.
    My main QNAP is a TS419Pro - an ages old ARM based 4 disk box and certainly not capable of running a modern version of LMS but I haven't asked it to for years. I think 5 years +. All my music files are still on it though but LMS runs on another machine that simply mounts the NAS folder via NFS (although it could be CIFS).

    I know Pinkdot maintains a version of LMS that runs on Synology but if he can't find a way round Synology's policy and all else fails it would be simple to just keep any Synology as a NAS and get a Pi to act as LMS server and mount the folder. It really is very simple and if you are talking a Pi4 with 4GB arguably as quick or quicker than running natively.

    I have built quite a few piCorePlayer based LMS servers now and the process is quite familiar but I'd imagine that any reasonably computer savvy individual could easily build one and get it connected to a NAS within an hour or two. No Linux skills needed. Just the ability to read and follow instructions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
    I have built quite a few piCorePlayer based LMS servers now and the process is quite familiar but I'd imagine that any reasonably computer savvy individual could easily build one and get it connected to a NAS within an hour or two. No Linux skills needed. Just the ability to read and follow instructions.
    That's what I do too, and have done for some time. My NAS is a Synology.
    Music Store & VPN Server: Synology DS215J NAS
    Home Server/Study Player:
    LMS 8.0.0 on Pi 4 pCp 6.0.0 Server/IQ Audio DAC+
    Refurbished 1962 RCA Stereo Console Server/Player LMS 8.0.0 on Pi 4B pCp 6.0.0 Server/IQ Audio DAC+
    Headphone Players: x2: pCp 6.0.0 on Pi 3B /IQ Audio DAC+
    Streamer/Player pCp 6.0.0 on Pi 3B/IQ Audio Codec+
    Homeplug/LAN Players: x2: Squeezelite on Windows 10 PC.
    VPN Mobile & Car Player: Material/SqueezePlayer on Android Phone

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