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    Quote Originally Posted by castalla View Post
    One factor which 'worries' me a bit is whether the squeezebox community will start to demonstrate demographic creep as time passes! (Include me in that!)

    I wonder what the average age is of users these days?
    I'm 65, but in my mind I'm 27, so my average age is 46.
    Living Room: Pi3 w/Allo Digione Player (Wired), Max2Play w/LMS Server 7.9 and SqueezeLite
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    Quote Originally Posted by d6jg View Post
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    I have often wondered with an Anglo Saxon name such as yours why you ever decided to get involved with French internet radio?
    A very perceptive question.
    I first heard FIP while in a car of a French woman in Paris in 1995 ...
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    It all started here .... and it still works!

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    A very perceptive question.
    I first heard FIP while in a car of a French woman in Paris in 1995 ...
    I always wanted to ask but always shy away

    - Iĺm French obviously -
    LMS 7.7, 7.8 and 7.9 - 5xRadio, 3xBoom, 4xDuet, 1xTouch, 1 SB2. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBoxOne, XBMC, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, JRiver 21, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, , Pi B3, B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+, Odroid-C1, Odroid-C2, Cubie2, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5

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    We married in 1996!
    Paul Webster
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    Quote Originally Posted by castalla View Post
    One factor which 'worries' me a bit is whether the squeezebox community will start to demonstrate demographic creep as time passes! (Include me in that!)

    I wonder what the average age is of users these days?
    Who are you calling a demographic creep!

    I'm doing my best in this respect - my kids know how much of a Squeezebox fan I am, and every time they come home for a visit I have some new aspect to show off (Jivelite on the TV, Airplay to the whole house, Spotify connect etc), so I'm hoping that when they settle into their own homes they'll ask me to set up a Squeezebox system. But I don't think hifi is the priority for them that it was for me at their age.

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    Trying to bring the average age down for Squeezebox users in this family...
    As of a couple of months ago, two of the grandchildren have Jogglers in their rooms and a Receiver in another bedroom and I have some powered speakers and another Joggler to be put in their kitchen over Christmas - all connected to a Raspberry Pi running LMS hidden behind the TV.
    Paul Webster
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    It all started here .... and it still works!

    My kids obviously are heavy SB users - each one has his own Radio. Plus
    shared units in Kitchen and living room (Touch). Some of our friends
    actually envy us, because this setup allows the kids to use Spotify
    without the need for a tablet or smartphone.

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    Purely speculative, but I think the Sonos user profile is rather different to LMS.

    Seems to divide between youngsters with smartphones (and increasingly Sonos is reducing access to only the latest 'shiny' new models) anf older users who seem to often have 'more money than sense' (having 'invested' over 10000 in speakers). Sonos seems popular in Scandinavia.

    Sonos control is largely limited to smartphones - there is no web-interface, and no linux controller.

    There is hardly any community development of programs, etc. and users are almost utterly dependent on Sonos fixing or at least not breaking working systems with so-called updates. The community forum can turn really fractious very quickly if anyone questions the value of some recent 'improvements'.
    And once a system update has taken place, there's no way to revert.

    My Sonos system is reduced to a Beam soundbar, and 2 speakers integrated into LMS using the upnpbridge plugin. The only plus in my book is that the speakers do sound good, but no longer such a plus compared to the Roberts S series or Libratone Zipps.

    LMS is light-years ahead of Sonos, and almost every other sound system.

    (For what it's worth my favourite LMS setup is a chromecast audio (gen 1 - 25 usd) linked to Avantree long-distance BT transmitter (40 usd) and a set of decent headphones - your choice!).
    LMS server: Pi Zero

    Amp: Denon PMA-50

    Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos Play 1s & Beam, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Chromecast Audio, Home Mini & Nest Hub, Amazon Echo 2,3 and Show5, Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler, Avantree Priva BT transmitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Webster View Post
    A very perceptive question.
    I first heard FIP while in a car of a French woman in Paris in 1995 ...
    I suspected such
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    Living Room - Joggler & SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 -> Celestion F20s
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  10. #20
    My first devices,
    2 SB3s, originally bought direct from Slim Designs in 2006. I still have one of them, but they both started re-booting. In the interim I bought a Grace Digital Audio player. That has horrible sound quality; even with external speakers. Ok for my workshop.

    Fortunately, phillipe_44 offered to replace the capacitors, on these re-booting SB3s, so I mailed him my 2 compromised players. I got them back, and I am listening to one of these SB3s as I type. I bought a 3rd SB-3 of E-Bay, so now have 3 functioning perfectly.

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