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    Touch as a server?

    I have been working on a sb setup for a friend who is not only not techie, he can react poorly to anything complicated or things not working as expected. Combine that with distance and infrequent short visits, its been a challenge.

    We went through a few iterations of extra players I had on hand (duet, radio), and have now settled on a touch as his best solution for a number of reasons (visibility primarily)

    We have him listening to internet radio, pandora, etc on mysb.com. I installed LMS on his laptop, but he is yet to grasp the differences/advantage of lms over mysb.com, and often his laptop isn't on, or around, and this causes confusion.

    He wants to add his digital music, and I had planned on helping him add it to lms on his PC, but since he doesn't really understand why lms is there, I had been thinking maybe my best route would be to build him a picore server with a USB HDD (my current setup). So he would have a "thingie" plugged into his router, and his player would work.

    But, then I stumbled across this - touch as a server:

    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...e_Music_Server

    My question - is this still a legitimate an up to date method of providing him with an "all in one" server/player? I ask because sometimes wiki articles can be old and irrelevant, and sb's are ever evolving... Before I go about giving it a try I thought I would ask.

    Basically, if I haven't made myself clear in my ramble above, I am looking to give him a self contained system, even if its limited (i.e. doesn't have the full features of lms, plugins, etc). He is happy with internet radio and pandora, and I think he would be happy with just playing his library, random mix, etc.


    Oh, one other thing, the touch would need to be on wifi. Not sure if there is an ethernet requirement.

    Thoughts?
    Jim

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    Try it. A 32GB SD card or 64GB flash drive costs under $10 so not much to lose. The biggest issue with "Tiny SC" is speed (library rescans, in particular), but it may be adequate for your friend particularly if the card/drive is updated infrequently.

    The steps required to do this are not that difficult so you should be able to walk your friend through it remotely.

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    Touch as a server?

    > Try it. A 32GB SD card or 64GB flash drive costs under $10 so not much
    > to lose. The biggest issue with "Tiny SC" is speed (library rescans, in
    > particular), but it may be adequate for your friend particularly if the
    > card/drive is updated infrequently.


    Besides speed and random crashes due to running out of memory I'm seeing
    one more important issue (compared to LMS on a different system, not
    mysb): more and more music services and radio stations require https
    streaming. The Touch can't handle this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    > Try it. A 32GB SD card or 64GB flash drive costs under $10 so not much
    > to lose. The biggest issue with "Tiny SC" is speed (library rescans, in
    > particular), but it may be adequate for your friend particularly if the
    > card/drive is updated infrequently.


    Besides speed and random crashes due to running out of memory I'm seeing
    one more important issue (compared to LMS on a different system, not
    mysb): more and more music services and radio stations require https
    streaming. The Touch can't handle this.

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    Michael
    Curious, with touch as a server, would the option to switch to mysb.com still be available on the menus? This would address the https streaming. Similar to switching between mysb and lms.

    Rescan is not an issue, but the "random crashes" are concerning to me (my friends inability to tolerate, restart things). Do they "just happen" or is it when you try to do too much?

    Jim

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    Touch as a server?

    > Curious, with touch as a server, would the option to switch to mysb.com
    > still be available on the menus? This would address the https streaming.


    No, it would not, as mysb can't stream those either.

    > Rescan is not an issue, but the "random crashes" are concerning to me
    > (my friends inability to tolerate, restart things). Do they "just
    > happen" or is it when you try to do too much?


    I think it's just too low on memory. Anything that increases memory
    usage can be risky. Using the image screen saver is a safe way to kill
    TinyLMS. Or larger libraries. Or probably just messing around.

    Give it a try.

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    sounds like fun, I will give it a try on one of my touch's first.

    Michael, to clarify, mysb won't be available, or is it that it wont solve the https issue? I ask mostly out of unfamiliarity of the touch servver interface when compared to lms or msb (e.g. favorites, etc).

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    Touch as a server?

    > Michael, to clarify, mysb won't be available, or is it that it wont
    > solve the https issue?


    It won't solve the https issue.

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    I just put one together, now I know what the interface is, that is an add on" to the standard menu system. I should have put it together before I asked, sorry.

    I'll play with it but so far, looks like it might be a good "simple all in one solution" for him.

    Thanks for your help!

    Jim

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    internet radio -error -not itmes found in playlists

    I listen to internet radio stations worldwide everyday on my Logitech Squeezebox touch (firmware 7.8.0-R16754) connected to LMS 7.9.2 on i-Mac OS10.5. I enter all radio stations URL in my favourite. All works perfectly except this URL https://aifmmobile.secureswiftconten...020-96000.m3u8. This is a radio station from Malaysia. I keep getting error -"No items found in playlist" after fetching track details...this URL works in VLC player.
    The LMS has HLS(v1.1) plugin installed and file type -ffmpeg selected. Can someone help please. Thank you.
    Last edited by tongkhor; 2019-10-10 at 20:33.

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    Touch as a server?

    > I listen to internet radio stations worldwide everyday on my Logitech
    > Squeezebox touch (firmware 7.8.0-R16754) connected to LMS 7.9.2 on i-Mac
    > OS10.5. I enter all radio stations URL in my favourite. All works
    > perfectly except this URL


    Totally off-topic.

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