BBC Radio 3 HD stream '403 Forbidden'?

[Man in a van]

#noslim=1 does NOT work with URLs ending with pls - they must be the raw playable URL.

Well I don't have a clue about how to get one of those, so I'm off to watch the rugby I recorded hours ago .

Bye the way, according to the comments on the BBC Blog, TuneIn BBC links work everywhere in the world, except in the UK

ronnie

[bpa]

Well I don't have a clue about how to get one of those, so I'm off to watch the rugby I recorded hours ago .

It is one of the URLs in the pls URL - use wget/curl or play the pls URL in a player such as VLC and look at the URL that is being played.

Bye the way, according to the comments on the BBC Blog, TuneIn BBC links work everywhere in the world, except in the UK

Sounds something like the same issue - a non UK server trying to deliver UK only URLs or some other variation.

[Paul Webster]

It doesn't play Paul

It is an AAC stream so will not work on all devices ... and no transcoding in this case.

edit:
I just tried to use it in UK from MySqueeze to SB2 and it fails - but not with a 403
If I use it via LMS "Tune in URL" function (nothing to do with "Tunein") then it plays to the same SB2 but LMS transcodes it to FLAC for it to work.

[pseud]

Try the #noslim=1 workaround on the real URL not the pls one.

see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...l=1#post877156

OP back to the fore

So, from the xml URL:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/imda_transports.xml
I get for BBC radio 3 low res:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediasele...adio_three.pls
Which in Leeds, UK (IP 80.229.1.210) resolves to:

[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio3_mf_p?s=1570113561&e=1570127961&h=91943d83bde12136ca01e6adb89a207d
Title1=No Title
Length1=-1
File2=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio3_mf_q?s=1570113561&e=1570127961&h=fbfb955209a210afb57f7022da2d5d7c
Title2=No Title
Length2=-1

And, from the same xml URL, the hi res:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediasele...adio_three.pls
Resolves to (still in Leeds):


So, where should I put:

#noslim=1

?

(No improper replies please.)

btw, what does '#noslim=1' do?

PS a nice pi with my cup of tea would do very nicely right now thanks

[Man in a van]

So I did a wget on the pls and that gave two files

File1=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_p?s=1570109570&e=1570123970&h= ba82082225adf914a11911112ace6b7b

and

File2=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_q?s=1570109570&e=1570123970&h= 95ffb2342ba8005d85a7e1d9412686af

I added #noslim=1 to the end of each one,

example here

http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/...e6b7b#noslim=1

and they both played from Mysb.com as favourites.

I then tried a shortened version

http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/...3_p?s#noslim=1

and that played.

I did not listen very long as my Radio is not workinging prperly. The display shows it connected to my local LMS and yet it is playing from Mysb.com

I can't be arsed to mess with it now...off to watch the Ireland match

ronnie

[bpa]

Use just the basic URL
http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_p

and not
http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_p?s=1570109570&e=1570123970&h= ba82082225adf914a11911112ace6b7b

The additional parameters are BBC way to control playing in some way playing - not sure what "h=" is about but

s=1570109570&e=1570123970

start time 1570109570 = 3 October 2019 13:32:50 GMT
end time 1570123970 = 3 October 2019 17:32:50 GMT

[bpa]

So, from the xml URL:
.
.
.
And, from the same xml URL, the hi res:
http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/proto/http/transferformat/hls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls

Just because BBC publishes an URL doesn't make it correct - we have plenty of examples where BBC program feeds where a Listen again URL are delivered in a feed yet fail to play.

The above 320k AAC URL looks incorrect as there is a part of a "hls" URL in the middle - it looks like someone edited the file and cut and pasted two URLs together (comments at start seems to show this feed is hand maintained) .

I can't test but guessing that a human created the URL and using lowres is MP3 and hi res is AAC so I'm guessing the following.

low res http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/proto/http/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls
hi res http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/proto/http/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls

[bpa]

This 2015 BBC post on Radiuo 3 HD seems to confirm the AAC URL.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet...6-723303f2887e


This undated BBC Sounds page summarise all formats available
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/other/codecs_bitrates

[pseud]

I can't test but guessing a huma created the URL and using lowres is MP3 and hi res is AAC so I'm guess the following.

low res http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediasele...aset/http-icy-mp3-a/format/pls/proto/http/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls
hi res http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediasele...aset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/proto/http/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls

Success! The above (hi res) resolves to:

[playlist]
NumberOfEntries=2
File1=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_p?s=1570113986&e=1570128386&h=320c2f791da262edb378f5a827c86c35
Title1=No Title
Length1=-1
File2=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_q?s=1570113986&e=1570128386&h=2354b65178950ebc8cb1e9f9bf6867e3
Title2=No Title
Length2=-1

But, now I'm a little miffed... Ronnie, how did you get your links:

So I did a wget on the pls and that gave two files

File1=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_p?s=1570109570&e=1570123970&h= ba82082225adf914a11911112ace6b7b
and

File2=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_lc1_radio3_q?s=1570109570&e=1570123970&h= 95ffb2342ba8005d85a7e1d9412686af
I added #noslim=1 to the end of each one,

if not from the xml?

[pseud]

Oh, you got there before me... Many thanks.