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  1. #1
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    Logitech Media Server dies

    I use my Touch with a USB hard drive plugged in and my entire music collection is on this drive.
    When I restart Logitech Media Server and set it to play random songs, it will do that for a few hours, sometimes a few days. Then I'll get silence.
    First thing I try is to skip to the next song >>
    Sometimes that works.
    What causes it to stop at the end of a song?

    Second problem: LMS stops, and then I tell it to restart, it takes some time to do this, and then allows me to play again. Why does it keep stopping?
    Is there a limit on the number of songs I can have on the hard drive? I have about 7,500.

    Dave S.

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    Perhaps a few more details

    Hi Dave

    You might include what version of LMS and the hardware involved. Then you might include the Media server log files. Then I am sure some one could help.
    Sorry I just noticed the comment about the USB drive. I believe the drive itself might be the problem. If you get the log files some one might be able to see.
    You might read this that might explain the song list limitation.

    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph..._is_100_Tracks

    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...x_Touch_Server
    Last edited by Tex; 2019-09-13 at 15:12.
    (1) Pi 3 w/ HifiBerry Digi + Pro, piCorePlayer 5.0.0, LMS 7.9.2, WD usb drive for Music files
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tex View Post
    Hi Dave

    You might include what version of LMS and the hardware involved. Then you might include the Media server log files. Then I am sure some one could help.
    From the post it sounds like he is using the built in server in the Touch, not LMS.

    Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

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    This mght have nothing to do with the problem but is your USB drive powered from the USB connection (rather than mains power). If so I'd try connecting it via a powered hub, just to eliminate one possibility.

    (I'm always a bit nervous about powering USB hard drives through USB connections - just me.)

    Personally, I'd run LMS on something else and use the Touch as a player, but it's your decision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tex View Post
    Hi Dave

    You might include what version of LMS and the hardware involved. Then you might include the Media server log files. Then I am sure some one could help.
    Sorry I just noticed the comment about the USB drive. I believe the drive itself might be the problem. If you get the log files some one might be able to see.
    You might read this that might explain the song list limitation.

    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph..._is_100_Tracks

    http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.ph...x_Touch_Server
    Thanks for those links, Tex.
    I'm not aware of a way to get Media server log files.
    I'm (now) aware that if I use the term Logitech Media Server, that people think it's running on a computer, rather than the Touch.
    I will now try the powered hub idea.

    In the past, I did have my music database on the computer, but had trouble with 1) the wi-fi connection between computer and Touch and 2) a powerline adapter connecting these devices was also not stable.

    Dave S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnB View Post
    This mght have nothing to do with the problem but is your USB drive powered from the USB connection (rather than mains power). If so I'd try connecting it via a powered hub, just to eliminate one possibility.

    (I'm always a bit nervous about powering USB hard drives through USB connections - just me.)

    Personally, I'd run LMS on something else and use the Touch as a player, but it's your decision.
    Sure, but what's the favoured way of connecting computer to Touch?
    It's too difficult to get an ethernet cable connection to the location of my music system.
    Wi-fi was unreliable, worked sometimes, but often broke.
    Powerline adapter worked longer, but more recently I experienced IP issues.

    I will now try connecting the hard drive through a powered hub.

    Dave S.

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    I hardwire everything

    I could share my problems with wifi but it sounds like you have your own.
    I would recommend a powered external drive with a fair amount of capacity.
    Reading the troubleshooting section it seems you have a one percent rule for the TinySC to exist on. Not sure how much space your music files occupy.
    Reading people's experiences with using the Touch server most complained about it being under powered.
    (1) Pi 3 w/ HifiBerry Digi + Pro, piCorePlayer 5.0.0, LMS 7.9.2, WD usb drive for Music files
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    OK, four days since I put in a powered hub, and it worked fine until today.
    "Locan Music Server Stopped".
    Same as before.
    Now I restart Logitech Media Server on the Touch and I'll be good for another random length of time.
    Is this the best I can expect, or is there something else I should do?

    Dave S.

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    Agree with John, run lms on something else (raspberry pi with picoreplayer)
    SqueezeBoxes: 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's
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    Song limitation

    Hi Dave

    Just to be sure you read the section about the 100 song limitation in a play list.
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