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    Choice of external HDD for piCore ?

    Hello,

    I have piCore on a Raspberry Pi. It seems that my external disk just died. I have to buy a new one. Having the HDD go to sleep between using it for music is important to save some lifetime and for noise concerns. The experiments I made some years ago showed that not all disks have a suitable sleep management mode possible to control from the RPi and piCore.

    Would you advice powered or not powered ones (the one I had was powered through the USB) ?

    Would you have references of suitable external HDD that would suit the mission ?

    Thanks for your help.

    Best regards,

    JMF

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMF11 View Post
    Hello,

    I have piCore on a Raspberry Pi. It seems that my external disk just died. I have to buy a new one. Having the HDD go to sleep between using it for music is important to save some lifetime and for noise concerns. The experiments I made some years ago showed that not all disks have a suitable sleep management mode possible to control from the RPi and piCore.

    Would you advice powered or not powered ones (the one I had was powered through the USB) ?

    Would you have references of suitable external HDD that would suit the mission ?

    Thanks for your help.

    Best regards,

    JMF
    You don't give the size of your library?

    My 18,000 track library fits easily on to a 500GB SSD: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 small, lightweight, fast, silent.
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    Choice of external HDD for piCore ?

    > On 2 May 2019, at 21:40, kidstypike <kidstypike.8zfp40 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > JMF11 wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I have piCore on a Raspberry Pi. It seems that my external disk just
    >> died. I have to buy a new one. Having the HDD go to sleep between using
    >> it for music is important to save some lifetime and for noise concerns.
    >> The experiments I made some years ago showed that not all disks have a
    >> suitable sleep management mode possible to control from the RPi and
    >> piCore.
    >>
    >> Would you advice powered or not powered ones (the one I had was powered
    >> through the USB) ?
    >>
    >> Would you have references of suitable external HDD that would suit the
    >> mission ?
    >>
    >> Thanks for your help.
    >>
    >> Best regards,
    >>
    >> JMF

    >
    > You don't give the size of your library?
    >
    > My 18,000 track library fits easily on to a 500GB SSD:
    > https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 <https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B078SWJ3CF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>
    > small, lightweight, fast, silent.
    >
    >
    >


    Absolutely - I bought an SSD and the improvement in speed, starting to play, synching (no idea why) and everything else was *tremendous*. Best investment ever for the pi.

    Rainer



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    > on SSD (ntfs)
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    > *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 4.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
    > *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidstypike View Post
    You don't give the size of your library?

    My 18,000 track library fits easily on to a 500GB SSD: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 small, lightweight, fast, silent.
    Hi,

    Thanks for the advice. At the moment I have about 230Go, but there are regular small increases.

    The SSD disk looks like a good option except for the cost aspect, even if it seems that thyey are going down.

    JMF

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    Do you have your SSD connected directly to the Pi? Does the SSD have a separate supply or is it powered through USB cable?
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    Hi!

    I am using a M.2 SSD inside an USB-M.2 Case and that is directly attached to my Raspberry Pi 3B+ inside a SmartiPi case. This works with the original power adapter from the Pi.
    I am using this case: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XD1Z2JK
    and this SSD: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B073SBX6TY
    and this USB cable: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01MR4XS9B

    Sorry, the links are in German but I found no english site for the case, but I think the pictures should be enough to see what I am using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahzz View Post
    Do you have your SSD connected directly to the Pi? Does the SSD have a separate supply or is it powered through USB cable?
    Assuming question is for me.

    The SSD is connected to one of the Pi's USB ports, no power supply needed, it's so small/light it just hangs down the back of the shelf out of sight.
    Server - LMS 7.9.2 Pi4B 4GB/pCP 6.0.0-b1 18K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs)
    Study - Pi3B+/pCP 5.0.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite,
    Lounge - Pi2/pCP 5.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
    Dining Room - Squeezebox Boom
    Garage - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 5.0.0 > Edifier R980T

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    Choice of external HDD for piCore ?

    > On 3 May 2019, at 08:54, kidstypike <kidstypike.8zgkbc (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote:
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    >
    > Fahzz wrote:
    >> Do you have your SSD connected directly to the Pi? Does the SSD have a
    >> separate supply or is it powered through USB cable?

    >
    > Assuming question is for me.
    >
    > The SSD is connected to one of the Pi's USB ports, no power supply
    > needed, it's so small/light it just hangs down the back of the shelf out
    > of sight.


    I am using this enclosure https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-X820-US...i/382275619889 <https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-X820-USB-3-0-SATA-HDD-SSD-Storage-Expansion-Board-Case-For-Raspberry-Pi/382275619889> plus the storage extension board https://www.ebay.com/itm/X850-V3-0-m....c100005.m1851 <https://www.ebay.com/itm/X850-V3-0-mSATA-SSD-Storage-Expansion-Board-for-Raspberry-Pi-3-Model-B-2B-B/263591056634?_trkparms=aid=555018&algo=PL.SIM&ao=1 &asc=57476&meid=ab43c078b43c415390828a4bd951751a&p id=100005&rk=5&rkt=12&sd=382275619889&itm=26359105 6634&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851> with the original power supply. Just to make sure: the connection pi - ssd is NOT usb3, but usb2. Misleading, but good housing.

    Both from a different supplier.

    Rainer


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    > *Server - LMS 7.9.2 *Pi3B+/pCP 4.1.0 25K library playlists & LMS cache
    > on SSD (ntfs)
    > *Study -* Pi3B+/pCP 4.1.0/pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/jivelite,
    > *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 4.1.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5
    > *Dining Room* - Squeezebox Boom
    > *Garage* - Pi3B/Pi screen/HiFiBerry DAC+/pCP 4.1.0 > Edifier R980T
    > *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB3, 1xRadio, 4xRPi
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436
    > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=110534
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    Thanks for all those different options.

    It seems that the SSD way is the way to go.

    Did some of you did some experiments with 256 Go USB sticks ?

    Not as fast, but may be sufficient for the music stream ?

    And are there some size limitations to USB sticks possible to read on the RPi ?

    Best regards,

    JM

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    I use a little Seagate backup plus slim which i plugged into my PC first and used the Seagate software to set the shutdown time before i used with the Pi

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