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    Quote Originally Posted by BertdeJong View Post
    The WiFi signal is very strong, there are some neighbors that are very nearby, but they have always been there and signal from the AP is the strongest. I have never owned a microwave
    A stroing wifi signal is no good if there is interference from another Wifi

    What do the radios themselves say about signal strength and signal quality(a measure of interference) - they are actual measuremnets which can be read from a Settings menu
    Just because your AP is the strongest doesn't mean there won't be interference especially if neighbour is on same channel - do a wifi analysis.
    If you are in an apartment - a neighbour wifi, microwave or bad fluorescent light can interfere.

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    Something is happening to me

    All Squeezebox radios are no longer staying connected to wifi. I can reboot the radios and it re-connects but loses the connection after a short period. This just started this week. Maybe there is a more widespread issue.
    2xSonos 5, Sonos 1, 2xChromecast audio, Squeezebox touch, 3xSqueezebox Radios, Klipsch The Three, Pioneer A4 (XW-SMA4-K), Chromecast Home mini, Amazon Echo, 3xAmazon Echo dots, Ipeng

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    If this problem is the same as other similar threads then look at this post (and then read the whole thread as some posters never did solve the problem)

    https://forums.slimdevices.com/showt...l=1#post930154

    This may only be applicable dependingon your region and your AP.

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    WiFi basics


    Some very basic WiFi tweaks to possibly improve signal strength and reliability

    ___Router Administration Basics (1-5 require admin access to your router):
    1. use a unique SSID name (name of your network/router)
    2a. if using a G WiFi: set WiFi to G only (turns off a & b modes)
    2b. if using an N WiFi: set to G Compatibility mode (if using G devices)
    3. change the broadcast channel to the least used channel near you (see *)
    4. select a FIXED ch, do not use the “auto ch switching” on the router
    5. choose only channels 1 or 6 or 11
    ___Physical (location)
    6. router and WiFi antenna orientation adjustments can help signal strength
    7. try to locate the router as “central” to the home as possible, keeping in mind length & width & height
    8. keep router away from other electronic devices (cordless phones, ISP modem, computers)
    ___Simple Maintenance
    9. reboot WiFi router every once in a while (once a month is usually sufficient)

    * If your WiFi network card software already gives the ch numbers and the signal strength of all nearby networks, that's all you need. But there are free programs like NetStumbler if needed.

    Why?
    1. This prevents accidental connections. WiFi devices can only differentiate between different WiFi’s by that WiFi’s name (SSID). So if both you and your neighbors WiFi are both named “Linksys” your devices may accidentally connect to your neighbors WiFi. And your neighbor may accidentally connect to your WiFi.

    2. The old a & b WiFi protocols are very slow, if any a or b device connects to your network all devices on your WiFi will slow down to the a or b speed. Also broadcasting in a and b can cause the G signal to be weaker. Turning off a & b broadcasting on your WiFi can give as much as a 20% signal boost to your G signal.

    3. Rather obvious, G devices need to communicate with a G signal

    4. To see what WiFi channels are in use near you a free program like NetStumbler
    can be used if your computers WiFi program does not show channel numbers.
    Ex: If the strongest competing signals around you are ch's 6 and 11, then choose
    ch 1 for your WiFi.

    5. Ex: ch’s 2, 3, 4, 5 will overlap with ch’s 1 and 6

    6. Just moving the router a few feet up/down or in a different part of the room can make a big difference. Ex: mine is on the shelf of a first floor closet in the center of the house, so the WiFi is basically “centered” for all points in the house. Ethernet cables are CHEAP so cost wise it is not expensive to move the WiFi router to most anywhere in the home. Cost aside, it needs access to power and how Ethernet cables are run to the router is another issue (might be visible)

    7. reduces likelihood of RF interference

    8. routers are basically a mini linux computer and they can have issues (memory leaks, DHCP confusion, DNS resolution problems, etc..) like any other computer where a simple reboot can improve performance. Reboot is simply unplugging it for 30 seconds, plugging it back in.


    SqueezeBox players are only G compatible, the router must utilize the G spectrum for your player to work on an N router. G speeds are more than sufficient to handle any audio transmissions over WiFi (i.e. N is not needed for audio).

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    Quote Originally Posted by toby10 View Post
    WiFi basics


    Some very basic WiFi tweaks to possibly improve signal strength and reliability

    ___Router Administration Basics (1-5 require admin access to your router):
    1. use a unique SSID name (name of your network/router)
    2a. if using a G WiFi: set WiFi to G only (turns off a & b modes)
    2b. if using an N WiFi: set to G Compatibility mode (if using G devices)
    3. change the broadcast channel to the least used channel near you (see *)
    4. select a FIXED ch, do not use the “auto ch switching” on the router
    5. choose only channels 1 or 6 or 11
    ___Physical (location)
    6. router and WiFi antenna orientation adjustments can help signal strength
    7. try to locate the router as “central” to the home as possible, keeping in mind length & width & height
    8. keep router away from other electronic devices (cordless phones, ISP modem, computers)
    ___Simple Maintenance
    9. reboot WiFi router every once in a while (once a month is usually sufficient)

    * If your WiFi network card software already gives the ch numbers and the signal strength of all nearby networks, that's all you need. But there are free programs like NetStumbler if needed.

    Why?
    1. This prevents accidental connections. WiFi devices can only differentiate between different WiFi’s by that WiFi’s name (SSID). So if both you and your neighbors WiFi are both named “Linksys” your devices may accidentally connect to your neighbors WiFi. And your neighbor may accidentally connect to your WiFi.

    2. The old a & b WiFi protocols are very slow, if any a or b device connects to your network all devices on your WiFi will slow down to the a or b speed. Also broadcasting in a and b can cause the G signal to be weaker. Turning off a & b broadcasting on your WiFi can give as much as a 20% signal boost to your G signal.

    3. Rather obvious, G devices need to communicate with a G signal

    4. To see what WiFi channels are in use near you a free program like NetStumbler
    can be used if your computers WiFi program does not show channel numbers.
    Ex: If the strongest competing signals around you are ch's 6 and 11, then choose
    ch 1 for your WiFi.

    5. Ex: ch’s 2, 3, 4, 5 will overlap with ch’s 1 and 6

    6. Just moving the router a few feet up/down or in a different part of the room can make a big difference. Ex: mine is on the shelf of a first floor closet in the center of the house, so the WiFi is basically “centered” for all points in the house. Ethernet cables are CHEAP so cost wise it is not expensive to move the WiFi router to most anywhere in the home. Cost aside, it needs access to power and how Ethernet cables are run to the router is another issue (might be visible)

    7. reduces likelihood of RF interference

    8. routers are basically a mini linux computer and they can have issues (memory leaks, DHCP confusion, DNS resolution problems, etc..) like any other computer where a simple reboot can improve performance. Reboot is simply unplugging it for 30 seconds, plugging it back in.


    SqueezeBox players are only G compatible, the router must utilize the G spectrum for your player to work on an N router. G speeds are more than sufficient to handle any audio transmissions over WiFi (i.e. N is not needed for audio).
    I had seen this post, thank you very much. I think I have done it all. My channel is now set to 1. My AP is in the dead center of my house. I reboot my router at least once a month. I have a SSID specific to the radio's, only they can connect using MAC filtering. Wifi in both boxes is strong (75 and 100 %) Unfortunately i can not set my router nor my AP to 'G Only'. It is either B and G or only 'N'.
    I have also changed my firmware on my Asus N66U router from Merlin to the latest Asus firmware, which turned out to be much more recent. I will keep everybody posted, but I can see a future where I do need to ad hardware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BertdeJong View Post
    I had seen this post, thank you very much. I think I have done it all. My channel is now set to 1. My AP is in the dead center of my house. I reboot my router at least once a month. I have a SSID specific to the radio's, only they can connect using MAC filtering. Wifi in both boxes is strong (75 and 100 %) Unfortunately i can not set my router nor my AP to 'G Only'. It is either B and G or only 'N'.
    I have also changed my firmware on my Asus N66U router from Merlin to the latest Asus firmware, which turned out to be much more recent. I will keep everybody posted, but I can see a future where I do need to ad hardware.
    To solve a problem it is best to understand and determine what is wrong - rather than try lots of different things and changing values and hope for a fix.

    Please run a wifi analyser - this way you can be sure the channel you choose is the "best" one and not also used by neighbours. Most common issues with "new "wifi problems is a neighbours wifi. Often neighbours have similar problems and soon they will also change their channel number and so the cycle repeats.

    Signal strength is not enough - you also need to know a quality value to see if there is interference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BertdeJong View Post
    I am successful in binding both radio's to the AP but overnight when in Stand By one of the two (not always the same) loses connection.
    You mean the radio loses connection after it was in stand-by overnight? Was it still connected to the AP and only disconnected from LMS or even disconneted from the AP?
    And it doesn't occur when only one radio was connected?
    Can you try a different router?

    For my Asus routers I disable Wifi for some hours during the night and also the LMS server (old Win10 PC, wired to the router) sleeps when idle, but the Radios don't have issues to reconnect to LMS in the morning. They either send a WOL packet to wake up the server or they are connected immediately if the server is running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinholdk View Post
    You mean the radio loses connection after it was in stand-by overnight? Was it still connected to the AP and only disconnected from LMS or even disconneted from the AP?
    And it doesn't occur when only one radio was connected?
    Can you try a different router?

    For my Asus routers I disable Wifi for some hours during the night and also the LMS server (old Win10 PC, wired to the router) sleeps when idle, but the Radios don't have issues to reconnect to LMS in the morning. They either send a WOL packet to wake up the server or they are connected immediately if the server is running.
    I Have used a WiFi analyser all the time and it showed me that 3 would be the best channel. I now have my problems reduced to one radio that refuses to keep a connection. It will connect, but after les than one hour it disconnects. I think I will buy a WiFi to Ethernet dongle as one of the forummember suggested. I am fed up with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by reinholdk View Post
    You mean the radio loses connection after it was in stand-by overnight? Was it still connected to the AP and only disconnected from LMS or even disconneted from the AP?
    And it doesn't occur when only one radio was connected?
    Can you try a different router?

    For my Asus routers I disable Wifi for some hours during the night and also the LMS server (old Win10 PC, wired to the router) sleeps when idle, but the Radios don't have issues to reconnect to LMS in the morning. They either send a WOL packet to wake up the server or they are connected immediately if the server is running.
    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    To solve a problem it is best to understand and determine what is wrong - rather than try lots of different things and changing values and hope for a fix.

    Please run a wifi analyser - this way you can be sure the channel you choose is the "best" one and not also used by neighbours. Most common issues with "new "wifi problems is a neighbours wifi. Often neighbours have similar problems and soon they will also change their channel number and so the cycle repeats.

    Signal strength is not enough - you also need to know a quality value to see if there is interference.

    I carefully took one step at the time and watched for change. I did use WiFi- analyser at all times, I have one Radio running, One refuses to stay connected, where it had no problems before I know of no change in the network. I am looking for a hardware solution now

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    Quote Originally Posted by BertdeJong View Post
    I Have used a WiFi analyser all the time and it showed me that 3 would be the best channel. I now have my problems reduced to one radio that refuses to keep a connection. It will connect, but after les than one hour it disconnects. I think I will buy a WiFi to Ethernet dongle as one of the forummember suggested. I am fed up with it
    I would be surprised if channel 3 was the best channel as it overlaps 1 and 6. You should stick to 1,6 or 11.

    https://www.metageek.com/training/re...ls-1-6-11.html

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