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    Release date of 7.9.2 beta

    I'm running LMS on an RPi using the DietPi distribution whose goal is to be easy to run. As a result, they only recommend updating using the packages they release and, in turn, are only supporting LMS 7.9.1 which was released in April 2018. I contacted the maintainer of DietPi and s/he respectfully declined to consider using the nightly builds. As a result, I'm wondering if and when you'll release the 7.9.2 as a beta rather than a nightly build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by audiomike View Post
    I'm running LMS on an RPi using the DietPi distribution whose goal is to be easy to run. As a result, they only recommend updating using the packages they release and, in turn, are only supporting LMS 7.9.1 which was released in April 2018. I contacted the maintainer of DietPi and s/he respectfully declined to consider using the nightly builds. As a result, I'm wondering if and when you'll release the 7.9.2 as a beta rather than a nightly build?

    Better to ditch DietPi and get with it, dude.

    I think the kids speak a bit different nowadays, innit?

    No, really...use another distro, there's not much to learn and you will be the one in charge

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    Release date of 7.9.2 beta

    > I'm running LMS on an RPi using the DietPi distribution whose goal is to
    > be easy to run. As a result, they only recommend updating using the
    > packages they release and, in turn, are only supporting LMS 7.9.1 which


    DietPi is Debian based. You should be able to install any nightly you
    want, no?

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    No.

    I was looking into this only today and it looks like Dietpi regularly runs a script to check if the system is working properly. Although LMS starts it then stops almost immediately as the version is not recognised. Developers won't or can't do anything at the moment due to various bug fixes but they also will not countenance agreeing to install anything (nightly builds) that are not stable. I think they made an exception with 7.9.1 beta because of demand but until 7.9.2 goes beta they won't be doing anything.

    Dietpi is as consumer orientated as a Debian device can be so alternative is to install another flavour of the OS if you need regular LMS updates.
    Last edited by Heuer; 2019-01-28 at 10:13.

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    I've spent many hours messing around with different distributions (piMusicBox, Volumio, Max2Play, ... come to mind as distributions I've tried). In the end I found DietPi was the least painful one to configure, works well with my Allo sound card, and I finally have samba running and configured to work with my wife's computer. So while I appreciate the suggestion to use a different distro, I'd like to avoid doing so if possible.

    I do realize LMS is largely a labor of love and I am grateful for it; however, I don't understand why after many months of development LMS 7.9.2 can't be considered a new beta build and updated semi-regularly as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audiomike View Post
    I've spent many hours messing around with different distributions (piMusicBox, Volumio, Max2Play, ... come to mind as distributions I've tried). In the end I found DietPi was the least painful one to configure, works well with my Allo sound card, and I finally have samba running and configured to work with my wife's computer. So while I appreciate the suggestion to use a different distro, I'd like to avoid doing so if possible.

    I do realize LMS is largely a labor of love and I am grateful for it; however, I don't understand why after many months of development LMS 7.9.2 can't be considered a new beta build and updated semi-regularly as such.
    PiCorePlayer does everything you have highlighted and is an actively maintained Squeezebox/LMS specific distro. Try it. Iĺm sure you have a spare SD card.
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    Release date of 7.9.2 beta

    > I do realize LMS is largely a labor of love and I am grateful for it;
    > however, I don't understand why after many months of development LMS
    > 7.9.2 can't be considered a new beta build and updated semi-regularly as
    > such.


    It is a beta build. It is a nightly. It is stable. Call it what you
    want. It's really only the DietPi's dev's understanding (or lack
    thereof) preventing him from "allowing" his users to use it. Giving it a
    different name won't make it any more stable. In theory 7.9.2 is just
    another bugfix release for 7.9.x. The dev should accept 7.9.x.

    FWIW: bumping the version number, adjusting update checkers,
    repositories, build systems etc. is about a day of work. I was tempted
    to do it recently, but really... it's mostly a lot of work, with little
    added value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mherger View Post
    > I do realize LMS is largely a labor of love and I am grateful for it;
    > however, I don't understand why after many months of development LMS
    > 7.9.2 can't be considered a new beta build and updated semi-regularly as
    > such.


    It is a beta build. It is a nightly. It is stable. Call it what you
    want. It's really only the DietPi's dev's understanding (or lack
    thereof) preventing him from "allowing" his users to use it. Giving it a
    different name won't make it any more stable. In theory 7.9.2 is just
    another bugfix release for 7.9.x. The dev should accept 7.9.x.

    FWIW: bumping the version number, adjusting update checkers,
    repositories, build systems etc. is about a day of work. I was tempted
    to do it recently, but really... it's mostly a lot of work, with little
    added value.

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    Michael
    I understand the nature of the nightly builds, but as you say the DietPi folks are on a different page.

    I can appreciate the desire to not do a day's work for little benefit. Thank you for that info. I will send a copy of this link to the DietPi folks, but if they don't change their policy, I will explore another distribution.

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    If you're interested in the DietPi response you can find it here.

    Briefly, they aren't going to move to nightlys unless they have some additional testers.
    More importantly, they say there is *no* reason why you can't install the latest .deb package in their distribution. I had done this in the past but things got screwy. Might not have even been their package given the power of sudo. As a result, I have downloaded and installed the latest release and will see how that works.

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    Would be great if you could confirm the .deb is working fine. Make sure you pick the right one (arm).

    BTW: I don't think 7.9.x is labeled beta anywhere. It might be confusing that we have to releases. But I consider 7.9.1 as much a stable release as 7.7.6. The difference is not stable or beta, but "officially supported by Logitech" vs. "Community release".
    Michael

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