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    BLIND TEST INVITE: Do digital audio players sound different?

    Greetings Squeezebox Audiophiles ;-). Apologies for not being around as much these days...

    Here's a question for the audiophiles... Do CD/digital players converting 16/44.1 sound the same/different? The real question I suspect may be "how different"!

    When I came across a post on the Steve Hoffman Forum initially last year and the ~90%:1% result, it got me thinking about doing a blind test to see if I can gather some real-world data using my hi-res ADC.

    Come and try the "Blind Test": INTERNET BLIND TEST: Do digital audio players sound different? (Playing 16/44.1 music.)

    4 "blinded" devices to listen to from different classes, 4 sample excerpts to try. Which device(s) sound best? Is there a big difference? Lemme know! It might affirm your opinion, or maybe you'll be surprised by your results...

    Test closes on April 30, 2019. Plenty of time to listen and let me know. As usual, once the test closes, I'll let you guys know which devices were used in the recordings and how people voted. Feel free to spread this around.

    Have fun listening!
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    I'm interested and also curious. Thanks for posting this I will try the blind test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archimago View Post
    Greetings Squeezebox Audiophiles ;-)

    Have fun listening!
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    I tried this very interesting...please post the results back here. 😀

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    Hey guys. Thanks for the participation!

    Here are the devices "unblinded".

    http://archimago.blogspot.com/2019/0...o-digital.html

    Will post discussions and analysis of the results in future blog installments .
    Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archimago View Post
    Hey guys. Thanks for the participation!

    Here are the devices "unblinded".

    http://archimago.blogspot.com/2019/0...o-digital.html

    Will post discussions and analysis of the results in future blog installments .
    I thought I took screen shots of my responses - but I can’t find them. D’oh. Do I assume there is no way to get you to resend my response now the device ps are known? Is this possibles? PM here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wl1 View Post
    I thought I took screen shots of my responses - but I can’t find them. D’oh. Do I assume there is no way to get you to resend my response now the device ps are known? Is this possibles? PM here?
    Hi! Do you remember parts of what you entered like your equipment list? PM me and I'll look in the database.

    Folks the Listener Results are out :-).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archimago View Post
    Folks the Listener Results are out :-).
    Had a read of them and no surprises - most people finding it difficult to tell any significant difference.

    What I found most interesting was the demographic split. The younger participants found the track with less dynamic range to be the most revealing, while the older ones picked the tracks with more dynamic range. The youngsters also seemed to slightly prefer the iPhone whereas the oldies liked the Oppo and Sony players. To me this seems to indicate that what you grow up with is a greater factor in perceived quality than the intrinsic character of the sound. Nurture more significant than nature, as it were.
    Transporter -> ATC SCM100A

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    Nice article!
    But, did I miss part 2?
    SqueezeBoxes: 1x Transporter (Living room) 1x SB2 (shed), 1x Radio (Kitchen), 1x Boom (Dining room), 1x piCorePlayer (jacuzzi), 1x piCorePlayer (Garden) 1x OSMC + Squeezelite (Movie room), 1x Touch (Study 2), few spare unit's
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    From the blog post ....

    "Audiophilia appears to be a strongly male-dominated hobby - 100 men : 1 woman... Thanks to the 1 woman who participated - you're truly special! :-)"
    Any different here I wonder?
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    Author of "Now Playing" plugins covering Radio France (FIP etc), KCRW, Supla Finland, ABC Australia, CBC/Radio-Canada and RTE Ireland

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    I think it's just another way of presenting music. If you compare to the visual arts for a long time there was a striving to "reproduce" and not interpret, but it changed. Techniques came in on how to interpret images to make them the most impactful they can be. I think the advances of production techniques have allowed more creativity in the way the final sound will, ahem, sound.

    Done well, the compressed sound fills a certain need, providing a hugely impactful direct, driving sound that has a place in the list of options out there, but.. I do wish it wasn't so needlessly applied to less stylised music across the board. And it's just so *badly* applied in so many cases that it has a really bad name. I've lost count how many albums I can't listen to because of distortion caused by over compression, and that's just dumb.

    I suspect the music industry is still suffering from teenage fads and when it's reached maturity and tech like this has been done to death and the novelty goes away things will hopefully improve a little. Perhaps I'll still be able to hear over about 10khz by the time that happens.... I doubt it..


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