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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    I wonder if this was a tweak done in 1.5.4. Anyhow you should upgrade to V1.6.0 (available last night) to fix latest BBC problem which broke "Listen Again".

    Not the Settings - the normal Home/Radio/BBCiPlayer menu whose top two entries are "Listen Live" and "Listen Live (non-UK)" - the last tthree entries are "Listen Live alt CDN" and "Listen Live (non-UK) alt CDN" and "Listen Live MP3"

    OK, here we go, all with VPN active, sitting here in wet Paris.


    R3 BBCiplayer <Listen Live> - With VPN **Not Working** (as before)
    iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8&dash=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three



    R3 BBCiPlayer <Listen Live alt CDN> With VPN **Works Fine**
    iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_radio_three.m3u8&dash=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three


    R3 BBCiPlayer <Listen Live - non UK - alt CDN> With VPN **Works Fine**
    iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/llnw/bbc_radio_three.m3u8&dash=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/nonuk/dash_low/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three


    R3 BBCiPlayer <Listen Live mp3> with VPN **Works Fine**
    iplayer://live?mp3=http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio3_mf_p&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three


    R3 BBCiPlayer < Listen Live mp3 BBC Radio 3 320kbps AAC UK only> with VPN **Not Working**
    iplayer://live?aac=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three


    R3 Via my long-term saved AAC Favorite <BBC R3 AAC 101kbps CBR, AAC SBR>
    iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8&icon=http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/imda/logos/radio3_logomobile1-1.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100



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    Quote Originally Posted by agbagb View Post
    OK, here we go, all with VPN active, sitting here in wet Paris.


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    Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice)

    USA:
    LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2
    1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676)
    Controller: 7.7.2-r9663

    France:
    Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox
    1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137)
    2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
    Controller: 7.7.1-r9557
    3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676

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    The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak"
    R3 BBCiplayer <Listen Live> - With VPN **Not Working** (as before)
    iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/ak/bbc_radio_three.m3u8&dash=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three
    The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw"
    R3 BBCiPlayer <Listen Live alt CDN> With VPN **Works Fine**
    iplayer://live?hls=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/uk/sbr_high/llnw/bbc_radio_three.m3u8&dash=http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three
    Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN
    R3 BBCiPlayer < Listen Live mp3 BBC Radio 3 320kbps AAC UK only> with VPN **Not Working**
    iplayer://live?aac=http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/http-icy-aac-lc-a/format/pls/vpid/bbc_radio_three.pls&icon=http://radio-service-information.api.bbci.co.uk/logos/bbc_radio_three/600x600.png&radiovis=fm/ce1/c203/09100&onair=bbc_radio_three

    I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but not Limelight one - perhapos this should be noted to NordVPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak"


    The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw"


    Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN



    I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but not Limelight one - perhapos this should be noted to NordVPN.
    Akamai video feeds on iPlayer (Kodi plugin) are often blocked also - FYI
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    Quote Originally Posted by castalla View Post
    Akamai video feeds on iPlayer (Kodi plugin) are often blocked also - FYI
    What is odd is the OP is able to use BBCiPlayer TV so perhaps behind the scene the iPlayer tries both CDNs and goes with the one that works - only way to prove that would be to examine network traffic which is too hard to describe remotely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    What is odd is the OP is able to use BBCiPlayer TV so perhaps behind the scene the iPlayer tries both CDNs and goes with the one that works - only way to prove that would be to examine network traffic which is too hard to describe remotely.
    Agreed. Wih the kodi plugin you can specify the CDN - so a test is easy - akamai either works or it doesn't!
    LMS server: Pi Zero

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    Players/Speakers: Touch, Logitech Radios, Sonos, Libratone Zipp, GGMM E2 & E3, Yamaha WXAD-010, Loewe Airspeaker, Google Home Mini, Pioneer WX-SMA1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler


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    Quote Originally Posted by castalla View Post
    Agreed. Wih the kodi plugin you can specify the CDN - so a test is easy - akamai either works or it doesn't!
    IIRC In one my of 1.5.* test version I had such a setting but nobody saw the need or wanted it. I added the "alt CDN" menus as an alterntaive although there is no option for "Listen Again"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    The akamai UK feed fails - denoted by the "ak"


    The Limelight Networks UK feeds succceeds - denoted by "llnw"


    Not sure how this feed is provided - MP3 sometime uses a different CDN



    I think above shows that BBC can block non UK use of UK akamai feeds but not Limelight one - perhapos this should be noted to NordVPN.

    As I'm a long-term NordVPN business customer (and the OP in this thread), I'd be happy to do this. However, I'm far from a technical expert!!! If anyone would like to give me the text of exactly what I should say in a Support / Bug Ticket, I'll let them know.
    AGB

    Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice)

    USA:
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    1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676)
    Controller: 7.7.2-r9663

    France:
    Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox
    1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137)
    2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
    Controller: 7.7.1-r9557
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    Quote Originally Posted by agbagb View Post
    As I'm a long-term NordVPN business customer (and the OP in this thread), I'd be happy to do this. However, I'm far from a technical expert!!! If anyone would like to give me the text of exactly what I should say in a Support / Bug Ticket, I'll let them know.
    I'm a believer in simple messages.

    Just ask nordVPN why does this UK BBC Radio three URL fail
    http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/ak/bbc_radio_three.mpd

    and this UK BBC Radio three work

    http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/dash/uk/dash_full/llnw/bbc_radio_three.mpd

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpa View Post
    I'm a believer in simple messages.

    Just ask nordVPN why does this UK BBC Radio three URL fail
    http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live...adio_three.mpd

    and this UK BBC Radio three work

    http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live...adio_three.mpd

    Done: thanks. Let's see what happens.
    AGB

    Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.6 - 1521467459 @ Thu Mar 29 16:46:01 WEDT 2018
    Operating system: Windows 10
    Music Library: external SD, exFAT (FLAC music; mp3 voice)

    USA:
    LinkSys WRT54GS Router, WPA2
    1 x Touch, LAN (Firmware:7.7.3-r16676)
    Controller: 7.7.2-r9663

    France:
    Sagem Livebox 2FR, or Freebox
    1 x SB3, wireless. (Firmware 137)
    2 x Touch, 1 wireless, 1 LAN. (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
    Controller: 7.7.1-r9557
    3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 usually LAN]: 7.7.3-r16676

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